RE: KLBC: T'Anna/ nu translation

["T. J. Harrington" <t_anna_kirk@yahoo.com>]

--- TPO <cheesbro@rpa.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Now you try "Two days from now the boy
> will visit
> > > > > > the embassy."
> >
> > > :) Translation: cha'leS rIvSo' Such loDHom.
> 
> Yes, this is correct.  See, you can do it.  (You
> have already gone farther
> than what my wife has done in two years.)
> 
> > :)I hope I understood you correctly.  I hope this
> was
> > :)what you wanted.
> 
> Yes, this is right.
> 
> > :)Right now I don't think I'm
> > :)ready for sentences like this yet.
> 
> Not a problem.  I had to get a feel of where you
> are.
> 
> > :)I'll try practicing on long sentences off line,
> before I send
> > :)another one via e-mail.
> 
> If you don't send them you won't know if you're
> getting them right.
> 
> 
> Ok, so, leaving off the time stamp we go back to
> "The boy visits the
> embassy."  You can do that one.  Now let's change
> the subject of the
> sentence.
> 
> "I will visit the embassy."
> 
> You know "embassy" - rIvSo'.
> You know "visit" - Such.
> Instead of "boy" we want "I" - jIH.
> 
> But, before we put these together like we did with
> the last lesson, we need
> to look at the verb prefix chart on page 33.  Don't
> get scared by it; we'll
> take these slowly.
> 
> The subject is "I".  We find the row in the chart
> that is for "I".  In that
> row we see:
> I     jI-   -   qa-   vI-   -   Sa-   vI-
> 
> At the top of each column we see more labels, these
> are the object.  We
> already chose rIvSo' "embassy" to be the object.
> 
> Is "embassy" a "none"?  no.
> Is "embassy" a "me"?  no.
> Is "embassy" a "you"?  no.
> Is "embassy" a "him, her, or it"?  An embassy is a
> thing, an "it".
> Is "embassy" an "us"?  no.
> Is "embassy" a "you" (refering to a group)?  no.
> Is "embassy" a "them"?  no.
> 
> So as we see here, we want "it".  We read across
> that row and we find that
> vI- is the one that is under the label for
> "him/her/it".  We want vI-.
> 
> This is a verb prefix.  This means it is attached to
> the front of the verb.
> In English we have prefixes like re-, mis-, un-.
>  write -> rewrite
>  understand -> misunderstand
>  do -> undo
> 
> We already know the verb we want is Such "visit". 
> Now we attach the prefix
> vI- to it; we get vISuch.
> 
> Now we can put this into our sentence.
> rIvSo' vISuch jIH - "I will visit the embassy."
> 
> 
> Now we will change this to "You will visit the
> embassy."
> 
> We look up "you" and find  SoH.
> ("you (plural)" is when you are talking to a group
> of people.)
> 
> On that chart we find the row for "you" (not the
> plural version).  We find:
> you     bI-   cho-   -   Da-   ju-   -   Da-
> 
> We already determined that the embassy is an "it". 
> Under the label for
> "him/her/it" we find Da-.  Attach this to the verb
> Such; we get DaSuch.
> 
> Put this in our sentence:
> rIvSo' DaSuch SoH - "You visit the embassy."
> 
> 
> Now if we make this "He visits the embassy.", on the
> chart we find 0.  This
> does NOT get attached to the verb.  Where ever you
> find 0, it means there is
> no prefix.
> So "He visits the embassy" would be  rIvSo' Such
> ghaH.
> 
> Now I want you to write "They visit the embassy."
> You need to look up "they", and you need to look on
> the chart on the row for
> "they".
>
:)I thoght I'd show my work to.
:)They visit the embassy.
:)chaH Such      rIvSo'
:)Now to translate it the way you showed me.  Above is

:)the way I used to translate it.  I believe I was
:)translating it the way we would say it in English.
:)I now see my mistake.
:)
:)Proper translation: rIvSo' luSuch chaH.
:)Am I correct?
> 
> DloraH, BG
> 


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