RE: KLBC: T'Anna/ nu translation

[T'Anna Kirk <t_anna_kirk@yahoo.com>]

--- "T. J. Harrington" <t_anna_kirk@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- TPO <cheesbro@rpa.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > Now you try "Two days from now the boy
> > will visit
> > > > > > > the embassy."
> > >
> > > > :) Translation: cha'leS rIvSo' Such loDHom.
> > 
> > Yes, this is correct.  See, you can do it.  (You
> > have already gone farther
> > than what my wife has done in two years.)
> > 
> > > :)I hope I understood you correctly.  I hope
> this
> > was
> > > :)what you wanted.
> > 
> > Yes, this is right.
> > 
> > > :)Right now I don't think I'm
> > > :)ready for sentences like this yet.
> > 
> > Not a problem.  I had to get a feel of where you
> > are.
> > 
> > > :)I'll try practicing on long sentences off
> line,
> > before I send
> > > :)another one via e-mail.
> > 
> > If you don't send them you won't know if you're
> > getting them right.
:)This is the reason I sent in my new sentence the way

:)I did.  This was a sentence I have been working on 
:)for awhile & until I started working with you on my 
:)skills I was translating incorrectly.  The former 
:)way I was translating is how I had formerly 
:)translated the sentence.  Now I will be able to work

:)on these translations a little better, & with your 
:)assistance I will be able to have a Klingon read   
:)what I typed & know what I said.
> > 
> > 
> > Ok, so, leaving off the time stamp we go back to
> > "The boy visits the
> > embassy."  You can do that one.  Now let's change
> > the subject of the
> > sentence.
> > 
> > "I will visit the embassy."
> > 
> > You know "embassy" - rIvSo'.
> > You know "visit" - Such.
> > Instead of "boy" we want "I" - jIH.
> > 
> > But, before we put these together like we did with
> > the last lesson, we need
> > to look at the verb prefix chart on page 33. 
> Don't
> > get scared by it; we'll
> > take these slowly.
> > 
> > The subject is "I".  We find the row in the chart
> > that is for "I".  In that
> > row we see:
> > I     jI-   -   qa-   vI-   -   Sa-   vI-
> > 
> > At the top of each column we see more labels,
> these
> > are the object.  We
> > already chose rIvSo' "embassy" to be the object.
> > 
> > Is "embassy" a "none"?  no.
> > Is "embassy" a "me"?  no.
> > Is "embassy" a "you"?  no.
> > Is "embassy" a "him, her, or it"?  An embassy is a
> > thing, an "it".
> > Is "embassy" an "us"?  no.
> > Is "embassy" a "you" (refering to a group)?  no.
> > Is "embassy" a "them"?  no.
> > 
> > So as we see here, we want "it".  We read across
> > that row and we find that
> > vI- is the one that is under the label for
> > "him/her/it".  We want vI-.
> > 
> > This is a verb prefix.  This means it is attached
> to
> > the front of the verb.
> > In English we have prefixes like re-, mis-, un-.
> >  write -> rewrite
> >  understand -> misunderstand
> >  do -> undo
> > 
> > We already know the verb we want is Such "visit". 
> > Now we attach the prefix
> > vI- to it; we get vISuch.
> > 
> > Now we can put this into our sentence.
> > rIvSo' vISuch jIH - "I will visit the embassy."
> > 
> > 
> > Now we will change this to "You will visit the
> > embassy."
> > 
> > We look up "you" and find  SoH.
> > ("you (plural)" is when you are talking to a group
> > of people.)
> > 
> > On that chart we find the row for "you" (not the
> > plural version).  We find:
> > you     bI-   cho-   -   Da-   ju-   -   Da-
> > 
> > We already determined that the embassy is an "it".
> 
> > Under the label for
> > "him/her/it" we find Da-.  Attach this to the verb
> > Such; we get DaSuch.
> > 
> > Put this in our sentence:
> > rIvSo' DaSuch SoH - "You visit the embassy."
> > 
> > 
> > Now if we make this "He visits the embassy.", on
> the
> > chart we find 0.  This
> > does NOT get attached to the verb.  Where ever you
> > find 0, it means there is
> > no prefix.
> > So "He visits the embassy" would be  rIvSo' Such
> > ghaH.
> > 
> > Now I want you to write "They visit the embassy."
> > You need to look up "they", and you need to look
> on
> > the chart on the row for
> > "they".
> >
> :)I thoght I'd show my work to.
> :)They visit the embassy.
> :)chaH Such      rIvSo'
> :)Now to translate it the way you showed me.  Above
> is
> 
> :)the way I used to translate it.  I believe I was
> :)translating it the way we would say it in English.
> :)I now see my mistake.
> :)
> :)Proper translation: rIvSo' luSuch chaH.
> :)Am I correct?
> > 
> > DloraH, BG
> > 
> 
> 
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