tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Apr 03 13:37:55 2001
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RE: KLBC: bangwI'
- From: "Stauffer, Tad E (staufte7)" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: bangwI'
- Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:36:04 -0400
Techno Monkey said:
> be' vISov. 'IH be'vam. 'ej jupDaj jIH
>
maj.
> 'ach bangna'wI' ghaH be'vam.
>
When using a to-be sentence, as you did here, the noun suffix {'e'} is used
on the final noun. So this would be:
{bangna'wI' ghaH be'vam'e'} "This woman is my definite beloved (i.e., my
true love )"
> vIja'pu' "qaparHa'neS".
>
maj.
> jupDaj jIHmo' choparHa' 'e' jatlh be'vam
>
For verbs of speech (and the verb {neH}), the pronoun {'e'} isn't used to
refer to the previous sentence. So you would just leave out the {'e'}, but
otherwise it would mean the same thing:
{...choparHa' jatlh be'vam} "This woman said 'You like me'", or in other
words "This woman said that I like her"
Is this what you mean? Did she say {choparHa'}, or {qaparHa'}?
> 'ach mumuSHa'be' bangDaj ghaH loD Do'
>
There isn't a period or other punctuation here, but I'm assuming that this
is supposed to be two sentences:
{'ach mumuSHa'be'} "But she doesn't un-hate me"
{bangDaj ghaH loD Do'} "A lucky man is her beloved"
The first sentence is fine.
For the second one, as I mentioned before, you need to add the noun suffix
{-'e'} onto the last noun {loD Do'} ("lucky man"). The to-be sentence
construction is explained on page 68 of TKD. Note that there's a small typo
on that page - there shouldn't be a space between {qama'pu'} and {-'e'}. So
your sentence would be:
{bangDaj ghaH loD Do''e'} "A lucky man is her beloved."
> bang wa' Sovbe'meH vay': Qapla'
>
This doesn't look like a complete sentence, and I'm not sure that I
correctly understand what you're saying. If you include the English, I can
help a little more. I read your sentence here as:
"In order for someone to not know one of the beloved: Success"
> mu'meyvam vIghItlhDI' jIlugh'a'?
>
DaghItlhDI', qar HochHom. majQa'.
Your message only had a few problems - you may want to look over page 68 of
TKD, and practice with using "to-be" sentences.
- taD
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