tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Apr 02 19:44:28 2001
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Re: KLBC: Qov qeqmeH mu'tlheghmey
Qov wrote:
>
> lab Michael A. Stumpe
>
> ...
>
> >"In order to test that theory, we placed forty tribbles on the
> >starship."
> >ngervetlh wIwaHmeH 'ejDo'Daq loSmaH yIHmey DIlanpu'.
>
> I accept your argument against tob, but having rejected tob, I'd recommend
> Daj. I would translate /nger wIwaH/ as "we sample the theory." Being that
> this is the step by step description of the experiment, I see no reason for
> the perfective here.
'ach jIDajchugh, vaj lujlaw'pu' ngong. <HIja'> <ghobe'> ghap
vIjatlhlaHbe' vIjangmeH. yapbe' ngong mIwmeywIj. vaj, mIwwIj
vIlughmoHDI', jIngongnISqa'.
[But if I test inconclusively, then the experiment has seemingly
failed. I can't say one way or the other. My experiment's procedures
are insufficient. So, as soon as I correct my procedures, I need to
experiment again.]
> ...
> >jIQIjchoH:
> >
> > mu'tlhegh cha'DIch vImughmeH, <waH> vIlo'pu'. <tob> vIlo'be', yapbe'mo'
> > wa' ngong tobmeH vay'. yapbe' 'uy' ngongmey tobmeH vay'.
>
> yaplaH wa'. nger tobHa'laH wa' De'Hom.
teH, mI' QeD nger 'oHchugh De'Homvetlh'e'. navDaq nger DatoblaH.
Qulpa' Dalo'nISbe'.
[That is true, if it is a mathematical theory. You can prove it on
paper. You do not need a research lab.]
> > mumevmoH mu'tlhegh wejDIch. vImughlaHbe'chu', 'ach jInIDpu'. 'op
> > mu'tlheghmeyvam rarlu'mo' poH qellu'DI', Segh Soch wot mojaq vIlo'be'
> > Hoch mu'tlheghmey vImughtaHvIS.
>
> I could have presented the same set of sentences in the future tense, and
> would have expected the same translations. Klingon doesn't distingush.
>
> >QInvam 'ay' Qav: QInvam leghlu'chugh neH, DIvI' Hol vIghojmeH
> >jIqonlaw'!
>
> teHbe'. cha' ben BG jIHtaHvIS, DIvI' Hol mu'tlheghmeywIj QIp mughtaH Hoch
> ghojwI'pu'. :) ghojwI'vaD Qu' qar wIvmeH Qu' vItIv. SoHvaD
> mu'tlheghmeyvetlh vIqonpu'DI', jIjatlh: qatlh ghaHvaD QatlhwI'mey Danob?
> 'ach DujlIj vIlo' 'ej DujwIj vIvoq. Data'. majQa'. laHlIj Sachlaw'ta'
> Qu'.
choyajHa'. DoS qIpchu'be' qIDwIj. QIp mu'tlheghmeylIj 'e' vIjatlhmeH
mu'tlheghvetlh vIqonbe'. napbe'bej mu'tlheghmeyvetlh. tlhoS tlhIngan
Hol mu'tlheghmey bIH QInwIj Hoch mu'tlheghmey'e'. QInwIjDaq puS neH
DIvI' Hol mu'tlheghmey. 'e' vIHech.
[You misinterpret me. I was not clear. I did not write that sentence
to say that your sentences are stupid. They are certainly not simple.
Almost all the sentences in my message were in Klingon. There were only
a few English sentences in the message. That's what I meant.]
> Qov
[By the way, can a verb with a purpose clause refer to the previous
sentence as a whole, as I did in the third sentence of my last
paragraph?]
quS'a'Qob bu', qa'rIl puqloD