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RE: KLBC / bep pIl'o'

ja' pIl'o':
>>> 'ach jInmolmeywIj law'qu' vISaHchu'meHqu'.

jIjatlh:
>> DaH jIyajbe'choH. I don't really know what the 
>> <-meH> is doing on <SaH>. I suspect you meant:
>>
>> 'ach jInmolmeywIj law'qu' vISaHchu'.
>>
>> Or maybe
>>
>> 'ach jInmolmeywIj law'qu' vISaHchu'meH loQ jIDachnIS.

> then this means the [SaH] verb covers the "for" or "about" 
> concepts, as in "care about" or "concentrate on"? qar'a'?

HIja'. <SaH> - "care (about), be concerned (about)"

>> yIQIj.

> I intended to write, "... but, I was concentrating on 
> my many projects". I think your 2nd sentence conveys 
> the meaning better, though.     qatlho', ghojmoHwI'.

maj.

>>> DaHjaj jIba'  'ej  jIloS.  jIloStaH.
>>
>> Do'Ha'. nuq DaloS?

> chamwI'pu' vIloSba'pu'. HuchwIj  lupoQ,

vIlaDqa'DI' SIbI' wanI''e' DaloSbogh vIghov. HIbuSHa'.

> vaj DujwIj lutatlh.
>         [vaj DujwIj mutatlh]?

Either is fine. The <vaj> is a bit weird, though. Maybe this makes more
sense:

DujwIj mutatlhmeH, HuchwIj lupoQ.

>>> *Alaska-Daq qabqu' lengvaD ghormey.
>>
>> <lengvaD> is in the wrong place - it should go before the verb 
>> - and I don't think it really works here. <lengvaD> is 
>> something like "for the benefit of the journey", which is not 
>> what you want. I suspect you meant <lengmeH>.

> oops. "surfaces for travelling" - that's what I meant.

maj.

>> .......If you really meant <ghor>, I think <yav> or <puH> would 
>> probably be better, and I don't think any of them sound right 
>> with a plural.

>> So if you were talking about tires (as I think you were), here 
>> are two possible suggestions:
>>
>> *Alaska-Daq qabqu' puHDuj rutlh. - Car wheels are very bad in 
>> Alaska *Alaska-Daq lengmeH qabqu' puHDuj rutlh. - Car wheels 
>> are very bad for travelling in Alaska.

> ghobe'. I was talking about the roads. "Surfaces for traveling 
> in (through/around) Alaska are really bad."

maj. The <ghor> threw me. Like I said before, I think <yav> works better
here. <ghor> just seems like where the away teams go when they beam down to
the planet, or maybe a geological term. I just can't make it work in my head
like you are using it.

>> You may want to substitute other words for <qabqu'> (e.g. 
>> the slang <natlh>) and for <leng> (e.g. <chIj>).

> [chIj] is navigate. I know where I am trying to go. It's 
> getting the car wheels to take me there which is the problem. 
> SeH might be better. Is there a verb for "to pilot"?

<SeH> would work quite well. There is no verb for "pilot", which gets rather
annoying. I would really like to know, in one word, what a <DeghwI'> does.

>>> Dachlaw'chugh  *car-swallowing-potholes*,
>>> vaj DujwIj tlhopvaD  *Zamboni lengmoHlu'.
>>
>> <Dachlaw'chugh> makes sense here, but I think <Dachlaw'meH> 
>> would make even more sense.

> I was trying to write: "If there are no car-swallowing potholes 
> then I somebody drives a Zamboni in front of my car." (an attempt 
> at exaggerative humor)

Are you saying that the Zamboni causes the absence of potholes? If so, then
a <-pu'> on the <leng> would make sense.

>> loQ jIyajbe'qa'. DujlIjDaq *Zamboni Dajom'a'? 'e' vIpIHbe'. 
>> SoHvaD (HochvaD je) He beQmoH *Zamboni, qar'a'?

> HIja'. the Zamboni is the thing they drive to smooth the 
> skating ice.

net Sov.

>>> qutlhmeH jolwI' ngevqangtaH'a' vay'?
>>
>> I suspect you meant <jolwI' qutlh>.

> I meant to say "Are you willing to sell a transporter 
> cheaply" (for cheap) I guess that poor grammer doesn't 
> work in either language. I don't want a cheap (as in 
> lousy) transporter, I want a transporter for little money.

I don't know that the Klingon <qutlh> has the same connotation (lousy) as
the English "cheap". I suspect it basically means <waghHa'>.

> qatlho'qa'. I hope excerpting the post is allowed, just 
> trying to unclutter things.

It's preferable. I'd rather just read and reply to the new stuff than wade
through something everyone has already seen before.


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