tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jun 29 19:12:21 1999
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Re: KLBC challenge
- From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC challenge
- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:14:27 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
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On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:36:19 -0400 Marc Ruehlaender
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > ghoch lIjlu'chugh, nuqDaq lenglu'?
> >
> > You should hardly consider yourself to be a beginner... but, in
> > reply:
> >
> mu'tay' qellu'chugh, jIqeqnISbej...
vaj yIqeqtaH. qabotQo'.
> > ghoch DapoQbe'.
> You don't need a destination.
Right.
> > batlh He yIghoS neH.
> Just follow the path with honour.
This one is actually ambiguous, though both meanings are
similar. My intent was "Just follow honor's path." If I had
used {quv} instead of {batlh}, this would have been more clear,
though it would have been initially confusing, since reading
left to right one might have read, "be honored... the path is
honored... approach the path is honored... no, that can't be
right. Oh. {quv} must be a noun..." In my haste, I thought
{batlh} would be less confusing, but I see now that I was wrong.
> > Dat batlh 'oH 'ach DaSamnIS.
> (assuming it was supposed to be <<Dat 'oH batlh'e'>>)
> Honour is everywhere, but you've got to look for it
> and you'll find it.
This has become a lot more interesting than when I first looked
at it. I see now that what I REALLY should have said was:
Dat batlh tu'lu'.
While on second thought I don't really like my own original {Dat
batlh 'oH}, I definitely don't find your {Dat 'oH batlh'e'} any
more appealing. {tu'lu'} is definitely preferable here to any
variation on using {'oH}. One finds honor everywhere.
That is better than my "Everywhere, is honor" and your sentence
which can be translated either as "Everywhere, honor is," or
"Honor is everywhere," [LITERALLY, since that interpretation
uses {Dat} as the direct object instead of the locative.]
> (See, it's not at all easy for me to translate <<Sam>> here...)
>
> *nowhere* Damugh 'e' vItul :)
paghDaq. bIQuch'a'?
As in:
paghDaq mu' <<paghDaq>> 'ang *Marc Okrand*.
Nowhere = at nothing; at nothing's location
> Marc Ruehlaender
> aka HomDoq
> [email protected]
>
charghwI' 'utlh