Re: KLBC challenge

["William H. Martin" <whm2m@cms.mail.virginia.edu>]

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:36:19 -0400 Marc Ruehlaender 
<ruehli@iastate.edu> wrote:

> > > ghoch lIjlu'chugh, nuqDaq lenglu'?
> > 
> > You should hardly consider yourself to be a beginner... but, in
> > reply:
> > 
> mu'tay' qellu'chugh, jIqeqnISbej...

vaj yIqeqtaH. qabotQo'.
 
> > ghoch DapoQbe'. 
> You don't need a destination.

Right.
 
> > batlh He yIghoS neH. 
> Just follow the path with honour.

This one is actually ambiguous, though both meanings are 
similar. My intent was "Just follow honor's path." If I had 
used {quv} instead of {batlh}, this would have been more clear, 
though it would have been initially confusing, since reading 
left to right one might have read, "be honored... the path is 
honored... approach the path is honored... no, that can't be 
right. Oh. {quv} must be a noun..." In my haste, I thought 
{batlh} would be less confusing, but I see now that I was wrong.
 
> > Dat batlh 'oH 'ach DaSamnIS.
> (assuming it was supposed to be <<Dat 'oH batlh'e'>>)
> Honour is everywhere, but you've got to look for it
> and you'll find it.

This has become a lot more interesting than when I first looked 
at it. I see now that what I REALLY should have said was:

Dat batlh tu'lu'.

While on second thought I don't really like my own original {Dat 
batlh 'oH}, I definitely don't find your {Dat 'oH batlh'e'} any 
more appealing. {tu'lu'} is definitely preferable here to any 
variation on using {'oH}. One finds honor everywhere.

That is better than my "Everywhere, is honor" and your sentence 
which can be translated either as "Everywhere, honor is," or 
"Honor is everywhere," [LITERALLY, since that interpretation 
uses {Dat} as the direct object instead of the locative.]
 
> (See, it's not at all easy for me to translate <<Sam>> here...)
> 
> *nowhere* Damugh 'e' vItul :)

paghDaq. bIQuch'a'?

As in:

paghDaq mu' <<paghDaq>> 'ang *Marc Okrand*.

Nowhere = at nothing; at nothing's location

>                                            Marc Ruehlaender
>                                            aka HomDoq
>                                            ruehli@iastate.edu
> 

charghwI' 'utlh