tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jun 01 21:18:11 1999
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Re: mojaq <-jaj> <-ghach> <-ta'> je
- From: WestphalWz@aol.com
- Subject: Re: mojaq <-jaj> <-ghach> <-ta'> je
- Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:17:19 EDT
In a message dated 5/26/1999 1:14:36 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
dspeers@bigfoot.com writes:
<< > qay'be'. The Aspect marker {-ta'} has to show an action which is wholly
> completed. The completion could be wholly accomplished already right now.
This suggests you still view completion as a process, and not a state.
Completion cannot
be "partly" accomplished. And the relavant time reference is {wa'leS}. "As
of tomorrow,
I will have changed it again." As of tomorrow, my act of changing it again
will be
accomplished (intentionally).
> But, because of the time stamp {wa'leS} the whole action will accomplish
its
> completion tomorrow.
At the time indicated by {wa'les} (tomorrow), the action will be completed.
It need not
"accomplish" that state at that time, it may be completed today, or it may
already be
completed, it doesn't matter.
> {-ta'} does not preclude the action being right now, the {wa'leS} does
that.
All the {wa'leS} does is indicate that, at that point in time, the action is
completed.
The action could occur now, or yesterday, or whenever, so long as it's
completed by
{wa'leS}.
> The {-ta'} does imply that the entire entity of action is "intentionally
> perfected."
At least we agree on that. >>
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bIlaDHa' 'e' vItlhoj. "partially completed" vIghItlhbe'. "wholly completed"
vIghItlhta'.
HIja'. qaSpa' wa'leS rInchugh wanI' mojaq {-ta'} wIlo'laH.
peHruS