tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jun 02 07:30:03 1999
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RE: mojaq <-jaj> <-ghach> <-ta'> je
> ======================
> bIlaDHa' 'e' vItlhoj. "partially completed" vIghItlhbe'. "wholly completed"
> vIghItlhta'.
I did not misread anything. I can quite plainly see that you wrote "wholly completed" and
"wholly accomplished." But I did NOT write "partially completed," I wrote "partly
accomplished." (If you're going to bother to quote me, quote me accurately, especially
when you're accusing me of misreading.) You had written:
> << > qay'be'. The Aspect marker {-ta'} has to show an action which is wholly
> << > completed. The completion could be wholly accomplished already right now.
Now, what *I* said is that this _suggests_ that you view aspect as a process. To say that
something can be "wholly" accomplished _suggests_ that it can also be "partly"
accomplished, which is why I used the words "partly accomplished." And what you wrote
after that corroborates this hypothesis:
> << > But, because of the time stamp {wa'leS} the whole action will accomplish
> << > its completion tomorrow.
This implies that it might begin its completion today, and complete it by tomorrow. In
other words, it's a process. You have to view it as a state. That is, a true or false
condition, like a lightswitch that is either on or off (no dimming!). If the action is
completed, the light is on. If the action is not completed, the light is off. Jumpin
jeehosefats, I can't believe we've been at this thread for months now and you still don't
get this point.
> HIja'. qaSpa' wa'leS rInchugh wanI' mojaq {-ta'} wIlo'laH.
Only if the action was accomplished deliberately.
> peHruS
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