tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Oct 12 19:46:21 1997
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Re: KLBC: Little text
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC: Little text
- Date: Sun, 12 Oct 97 20:27:22 UT
[email protected] on behalf of Qov wrote:
> At 10:30 97-10-07 -0700, edy wrote:
>
> } 1863 DIS, *Lindembrock* ghojmoHwI' vavwI' loDnI', nom *Hamburgo*Daq
> }juHHomDaj cheghchoH.
>
> We don't know how to say "in <a year>." It could be the way you did it, but
> it could be many other ways. We DO know how to say "<n> years ago." Use
> that.
Sure, we know how to say "in <a year>." It's a timestamp, like any other.
tera' DIS wa' chorgh jav wej *Gettysburg* SoQ jatlh *Lincoln*.
Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address in 1863.
{nem} "years ago" is a timestamp too, not some magical formula. You stick it
at the beginning where you stick all time references.
wa'leS jIleS.
I will relax tomorrow.
tera' DIS wa' Hut Soch wej jIbogh.
I was born in 1973.
wa'maH Soch vatlh rep jIvumchoH.
I start working at five o'clock.
wa'ben taghwI'pu' pabpo'wI' vIgheS.
One year ago I became the Beginners' Grammarian.
Every one is a time reference, and treated in the same way.
> Verbs of saying do not take {'e'} or {-'egh} when describing what was said.
> I guess you're saying "I said to myself" We used to say we didn't know
> about this, but as the prefix of a verb of saying clearly can denote the
> person spoken to, I'm going to say this is a reasonable extension.
It's possible, but Okrand says nothing on this subject. Why not use the
Perfectly Valid and Canonically Supported {jIja''egh} "I tell myself"?
> > lojmIt poDmoH *Martha* 'ej tlhob:
> }- *Lindembrock* bIpawta''a' ? wej cha'rep 'oHbe'.
> }- qatlh 'eqqu' bIchegh ?
> Verbs cannot be used as adverbs. {'eqtaHvIS} "while it is early" would work.
While WHAT is early? Our first glimpse of this verb was not in the
dictionary, it was used in an example by Marc Okrand: {'eq} "She is early."
If a person is early, she is ahead of schedule. {paS}, too, means "He is
late," which only makes sense to me as meaning that he is behind schedule.
These verbs COULD have other meanings, such as {'eq} "Whatever it is I'm
talking about has just begun and hasn't gotten very far yet," which is what
you've said, but there's no evidence of that.
SuStel
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