ja' Qov: >... I can't even think what {-lu'be'} would mean. {-lu'} is an indefinite subject, and can usually be translated using the impersonal "one" in English. I can understand {-lu'be'} as referring to sort of an impersonal "noone". {Supbe'lu'} and {Supbe' vay'} have related meanings. I think {Suplu'be'} and {Sup pagh} are related in a similar way. -- ghunchu'wI'