ghItlh qoror: >...But, although it's tough to put my argument into >words, I still stand by "maHpu'ma'Daq nargh SanIDpu'." nuqjatlh? DapHey retlhDaq bIQamtaH jay'! "It appears/escapes in our plural "us"; I have tried you all." That's not at all what you meant to say, but that's what I see when I try to read it. -- ghunchu'wI'