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Re: more on -moH qororvo'



jatlh ~mark:
>>	Dubotchugh yIpummoH.
>>	If it's in your way, cause it to fall.  (passive)
>
>I still don't see any passive/active anything, except what you choose to
>impose on it.  "pum" means "to fall".  "To move downward unsupported under
>the influence of gravity."  Stuff like that.  "yIpummoH" is "cause it to
>fall."  Cause the action of falling to happen with it.  Where's passive or
>active?

There's been a lot of talk lately about this, so I want to get one thing
straight:
passive, I thought, was when the verb is a "be verb," like "It is happy,"
"The object is falling," or "The book is sitting on the table."
active, I thought, is everything else, like "I make myself happy," "The
object falls," or "The book sits on the table."
Am I right? If so, isn't that sentence active?

>"quv" means "to be honored".  NOT passive (not in Klingon, anyway: Klingon
>has no passive.  It's a state of being honored, that's all).  "quvHa'"
>would be "to be dishonored," of course.  And "quvHa'moH" would be "cause to
>be dishonored."  Sure, it's passive in English, but what does that signify?
>It means "cause them to be in a state of dishonor."

Wait, why couldn't <jIH quv> be passive, because it's used as an adjective? 
Just wondering.
-HurghwI'


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