tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jun 03 01:41:58 1997
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Re: jajlo'
Robyn Stewart wrote:
>
> >
> > Every single instance of {ja'} with an object used by Okrand has
> > had the person being told something as the object. The thing said
> > is not the object. Perhaps it can take some other object, but
> > we've never seen such a thing. So, if you say {QaghmeylIj
> > Daja'mo'}, you've just said "because I tell my mistakes
> > (something)."
>
> DaH vImulqang.
>
> The only meaning tell and report have in common is transitive, with
> the report as the object. I argue that this, too, is a valid use of
> ja'. I think the 'report recipient as object' use is one of those
> 'indirect object as object' uses that Marc keeps dropping on us, like
> qanob, and that the 'normal' meaning is the one tell and report have
> in common.
>
Using {ja'} as to "tell somebody about something", where the thing
being reported is the direct object is exactly the same conclusion
which I came to last night as I tried to translate the first verse
of the "Nibelungenlied" into Klingon. That Okrand gives us "tell"
and "report" both as valid translations for {ja'} is an indicator
for that fact. Consider the english sentence:
Starbase I to HQ: Starbase I reports 3 incoming vessels.
The starbase there is "telling the HQ about 3 incoming vessels",
which is exactly what both the words "tell" and "report" indicate
for me in TKD for how to use {ja'}. Furthermore, both "tell" and
"report" take the person being spoken to as indirect object which
I take as indicator to use "vaD" to reach that person:
QovvaD wanI' vIja'pu'.
as in "I have told Qov about the event", or "I have reported the
event to Qov".
QetlhIS
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