tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jun 02 17:26:33 1997

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Re: jajlo'



jatlh SuStel:
> jatlh Qov:

> >> QaghmeywIj Daja'mo' jIHvaD lI'qu'.
> QaghmeylIj Daja'chugh, vaj QaghmeylIjvaD bIjatlh. 'e' chup 
> charghwI'.
>
> Every single instance of {ja'} with an object used by Okrand has 
> had the person being told something as the object. The thing said 
> is not the object. Perhaps it can take some other object, but 
> we've never seen such a thing. So, if you say {QaghmeylIj 
> Daja'mo'}, you've just said "because I tell my mistakes 
> (something)."

DaH vImulqang. 

The only meaning tell and report have in common is transitive, with 
the report as the object. I argue that this, too, is a valid use of 
ja'.   I think the 'report recipient as object' use is one of those 
'indirect object as object' uses that Marc keeps dropping on us, like 
qanob, and that the 'normal' meaning is the one tell and report have 
in common.

> I think the main problem is that we have enough trouble 
> *understanding* each other in Klingon, let alone starting to use 
> metaphors.

Qov grumbles.  qechmeymaj wIDelmeH mu'mey DIlo'DI' Seng wISIQbej. 
QaH 'e' Hech *metaphor*mey jay'.  
..
-Qov qej



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