tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jul 22 07:57:31 1997
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Re: vegh
>Thaddaeus Vick answered:
>: No, {vegh} is a verb. You are trying to use it as a preposition,
>: which I don't think we even have in Klingon (as separate words anyway).
>: "A lonely freighter flies through space" would be something along the
>: lines of {logh vegh tongDuj mob}. (Note the correct position of the
>: adjectival verb {mob}).
>
>Agreed, {vegh} is a verb but can we really use it this way?
>
>DloraH wrote:
>>-This word does NOT work for:
>>The bullet went through his heart
>>His fist went through the wall
>>
>>Notice that in these examples the subject physically touches the object; the
>>bullet touched the heart as it went through it.
>>The bird going through an open window doesn't touch anything.
>
>.. and charghwI' wrote:
>>Note that this does mean:
>>A man goes through an open door, a bird goes through an open
>>window or a woman goes through a tunnel.
>>
>>Note that it explicitly does NOT mean:
>>A man's fist goes through a closed door, an arrow goes through a
>>bird's heart or a woman goes through a forest.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I'm puzzled by this last example: does the woman actually "touch" the forest
>as she walks through it?
I don't think that whether or not the woman touches the trees is the issue.
the issue is whether or not the object that the woman is going through is
meant to be gone through. If wind blows through a window, it is not
damageing the window, and that is in fact part of what the window is fore.
On the other hand, a bullet penetrating a heart does not fit "vegh" because
the bullet must tear it's own path, and more than likely, the heart would
rather not be penetrated. As for a woman walking through a forest, my
impression is that "vergh" can be used here, as the woman is not damageing
the forest. Particularly if there is some kind of pre-existing path which
she is following. On the other hand, if it is a bulldozer which is
going through the forest, perhapse clearing trees for a new road, then
"vegh" would not apply.
SuSvaj