tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jul 04 16:02:37 1997
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Re: Analysis of new Skybox cards (with a foray into subatomic ph
- From: "Robyn Stewart" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Analysis of new Skybox cards (with a foray into subatomic ph
- Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:01:36 PST
- Organization: NLK Consultants, Inc.
- Priority: normal
lab Qob
& Robyn Stewart wrote:
& > lab Qob:
& > & {beyHom bey bey'a' jachtaH latlh tlhInganpu'.}
& > & "The other Klingons cry out small howls, howls, great howls."
& > & This is mega-weird.
& >
& > Sure, just as there ought to be an 'and' in the English.
& > Writing in any language often breaks the rules, and if it's clear, the
& > writer gets away with it.
&
& The thing is, it *isn't* clear (at least to me) without the English
& translation. It may be blasphemy, but this looks like a "hindsight"
& word (well, hindsight noun phrase).
Hmmm, well when I read it I was waiting for a verb <bey> to go with
the noun, so first I saw a major howl howling a little howl, but as
soon as I hit jachtaH, that had to be the main verb, so I backed up
and made all three beymey into nouns. I think it's just the
unfamiliarity of the word that gives you pause. Try the same
construction with words you know well:
tengchaH vI'elDI' ghom'a' vIlegh. qevchuq tlhInganpu' vulqanganpu'
verenganpu' tera'nganpu' ... nImbuS wej rur!
(Yeah, yeah ... try it with words *you* know well, how should I know
what they are?) The elipsis is unnecessary, but the construction does
imply a continuity, that there are more than actually listed, that
the full range with the je on the end has been elided. I think it
very appropriate for the howls and if it makes me pause to get the
meaning, all the better. (Sudden attack of giggles: I sound exactly
like Guido explaining wa/wa'. Maybe I'm as full of it. jIjatlh
DaH 'e' vImevlI'.)
& > On the other hand, I'd like it 'ul to mean electron, just because I
& > want the word. :)
&
& Only if he gives us enough other elemtary particles so we can
& discuss subatomic particle physics! (I dare him to give us
& "intermediary vector boson" or words for all the flavors of quarks!)
Hap 'ay'Hommey vIqellaH vIneH 'ach 'utbe' Hoch'e' 'ay'Hommeyvetlh.
<'otlh> wIghaj. DaH loQ vIDellaH. Hap 'ay'Hom botlhDaq cha' Segh
lutu'lu'. Huj wa' Segh. Hujbe' latlh. botlh bav yu'egh rurbogh
'ay''e'. (pagh 'ay' rurbogh yu'egh'e') .... and at this point I start
waving my hands an mumbling 'proabability distribution' and 'sp3
hybridiztion' . oh bah.
My husband has discovered he can torment me by telling me to
translate things like: "The picture of the table is on the wall
by the window."
Heeey. Here's what we have to do: get a KLI member onto the team that
does the English text for the Skybox cards.
- Qov