tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Jan 30 19:08:52 1997
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Re: Phrases
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Phrases
- Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:08:27 -0500 (EST)
- In-reply-to: <[email protected]> (message fromIrene Gates on Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:27:06 -0800)
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>Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:27:06 -0800
>From: Irene Gates <[email protected]>
>
>jatlh SuStel:
>
>> [...] jatlh T'Lark:
>>>>> [Better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved.] [...]
>
>>> My entry:
>>> muSHa'lu'chugh 'ach lujlu'chugh, ghu' QaQ law'; not muSHa'lu'chugh,
>>> ghu' QaQ puS.
>
>> Not bad, although I don't know if it's legal to stick conditionals in the
>> middle of a law'/puS sentence.
>
>I've seen entire {-meH}-clauses in there, but I don't suppose they were canon.
>~mark, vuDlIj yIghaqneS.
vIlajqanglaw' jIH. Maybe because we need all the help we can get in
getting stuff we can use with that strange law'/puS construction. I don't
recall canon either, though. But isn't that sentence about drinking fake
ale and drinking water in a law'/puS form?
>from Tennyson's _In Memoriam A.H.H._, canto 27.
>
> I hold it true, whate'er befall;
> I feel it, when I sorrow most;
> 'Tis better to have loved and lost
> Than never to have loved at all.
>
>Here's a quick go (i.e. neither metre nor rhyme is perfect) at a translation, in
>which metrical considerations prevail over aggressive overtones ...
>
> reH jI'IQqu'taHvIS, vIbuS;
> qaS nuq 'e' jISaHbe', teHlaw';
> parmaq vIchIlchugh, ghu' QaQ law',
> not vImuSHa'chugh, ghu' QaQ puS.
Wow, you really have a knack for this. You have the question-as-object
construction which we're not so sure about, but that's not bad. Then
again, maybe Hoch or vay' instead of nuq would be better. It should be
vISaHbe', though, certainly.
>> [...] And Klingons like their love as they like their battle! (Or so we're
>led to believe . . .)
In which case, maybe luj instead of chIl? :)
>toH! QongDaqDaq Hegh luneH'a' tlhInganpu'?
Dying in action, eh?
~mark
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