tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Nov 14 15:49:00 1996

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Re: Using -Daq (was RE: KLBC: Translation)

At 03:08 PM 11/14/96 -0800, you wrote:
>At 09:40 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>>>jatlh HurghwI':
>>>>  Correct as usual . . . I realized this right after I sent the message, and
>>>>  had already changed my sig. However, don't words for location like {pa'},
>>>>  {naDev}, {vogh}, and {Daq} have an assumed {-Daq} suffix? If not, could I
>>>>  say {DaqDaq}?
>>>
>>>Only the three words {pa'} (only in the sense of "thereabouts"), {naDev},
and 
>>>{Dat} have the location built-in and therefore cannot use {-Daq}.  So, yes, 
>>>{DaqDaq} is a legitimate word.
>>>
>>>SuStel
>>
>>"Cannot" is too strong. "Need not" would be more apt.
>
>No, you really CANNOT. I'm sure it says so in TKD, in the nouns section
>somewhere.
>
>>In a bar, the visiting Terran hears a commotion and asks his Klingon escort: 
>>	pa'Daq qaStaH nuq
>>	What's happening over there?  (CK)
>>And, in a related usage, you can use -vo' with naDev:
>>	naDevvo' yIghoS
>>	Go away!  (TKD)
>>	naDevvo' jIleghlaHchu'be'
>>	I can't see well from here.  (CK)
>>	naDevvo' vaS'a'Daq majaHlaH'a'
>>	Can we get to the Great Hall from here?  (PK)  
>>If naDevvo' is permitted, then naDevDaq is, at least, a possibility
>>(though it is surely redundant). The only examples of naDev used in an
>>accusative sense I can find from Okrand are: 
>>	naDev ghoS
>>	Come here!  (PK)
>>	naDev Dochvetlh qem
>>	Bring that here!  (PK)
>>	naDev Dochvetlh qemqu'
>>	I really mean it this time: bring that here!  (PK)
>>Note that these are all Clipped Klingon as they are pet commands. Also,
>>naDev ghoS ("Come here") has been used in TNG "Redemption I" but, as we
>>know all too well, Paramount's use of Hol proves nothing - even when they
>>manage to get it right. 
>
>I'm afraid I your point from all this.

Accidently sent this before I finished! 
I'm afraid I don't see the point of all this.

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