tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jul 30 10:23:33 1996
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Re: chollI' qep''a'
- From: Jose Mijares <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: chollI' qep''a'
- Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 13:25:53 -0400
>Subject: Re: chollI' qep''a'
>Sent: 7/17/96 4:29 PM
>Received: 7/30/96 1:23 PM
>From: Mark E. Shoulson, [email protected]
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: Multiple recipients of list, [email protected]
>
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>>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:11:54 -0700
>>From: [email protected] (Soqra'tIS)
>
>>On 7/17/96 at 7:35 AM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote the following:
>
>>> >Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:55:00 -0700
>>> >From: [email protected] (Soqra'tIS)
>>>
>>> >On 7/16/96 at 7:02 AM, Dr. Lawrence M. Schoen wrote the following:
>>> > <...vIteqlu'pu'...>
>>> "I have been removed"? Ouch. Do'Ha'.
>
>>"I have removed it" vInIDta'. majHa''a'. "<...SnIp...>" vInejpu'. yIqeSnIS.
>
>That would be "vIteq." -lu' indicates an unspecified subject, and the
>prefixes reverse their meanings. "vIteq" is "I removed it"; "vIteqlu'" is
>"something removed me."
>
>"majHa''a'"?? Ugh. maj is not a verb (that we know of); we don't know if
>it can be suffixed with -Ha' (though there are some examples of adverbs
>getting -Ha', but generally ones like "Do'" which is also a verb), and
>certainly we don't know about putting -'a' on an adverb.
>
>yIqeSnIS is a command that I must "need to advise!" It's probably only in
>really contrived circumstances that you'll ever need an imperative prefix
>and "-nIS" on the same word. Either "yIqeS" or "HIqeS" (Advise! Advise
>me!) or "bIqeSnIS"/"choqeSnIS" (you must advise/you must advise me).
>
>>nuqjatlh'a'. "teS" = "ear(s)"? 'e' vItu'Ha'. yIqeSnIS.
>
>{nuqjatlh} is an expression in its own right. It doesn't take -'a'.
>Remember that -'a' is NOT just thrown on whenever there's a question. It
>signifies only yes/no questions, attached to verbs.
>
>"teS" is a word for "ear" given in HolQeD. It refers to the inner ear, the
>organs responsible for hearing (though they're harder to remove, I judged
>those would be the things that would have to goto save you from hearing the
>song). External ears are "qogh."
>
>Why vItu'Ha'? You mis-found it? Sort of like you found it but screwed
>up doing it? vItu'be' is neater.
>
>>> > 'e' largh QIjlaw'
>>>
>>> "He smells that (the prospect scares him). He apparently explains it."
>>> nuqjatlh? loQ jImIS.
>
>>"THAT explains the smell" vInIDta'. yIqeSnIS.
>
>Well, consider what you tried. For one thing, in the English, "that" is
>the subject, isn't it? And you're trying to use 'e' for it in the
>Klingon. But 'e' is only an OBJECT. There is no simple
>sentence-as-subject construction in Klingon (that we know).
>
>Also, what's "largh"? It's a verb, not a noun. Moreover, it means "smell"
>in the sense of "detect odor," not in the sense of "emit odor" (which would
>be "He'"). A noun "smell" would be something along the lines of
>"He'taHghach" (an ugly use of -ghach with a meaningless -taH). Try
>something like:
>
>toH, wanI'vammo' He'So'lu'.... (So, because of that event something stinks)
>
>Maybe He'lu' for "smells" instead. I will grant this was not an easy
>recasting to come up with, and it isn't even all that good. You can try
>things like "'e' vIlarghlaw'" (I seem to smell that (the prospect scares
>you)), etc.
>
>>> ><...vIteqlu'pu'...>
>>>
>>> >> So, if you're drooling ...
>>>
>>> > tlhInganpu' bolbe'
>>>
>>> tlha'Ha'chuq mu'lIj (I *do* like that phrasing for complaining about
>>> word-order).
>
>>jIH yIQIj
>
>Huh? "me you-explain(-it)"? If you mean "explain it to me" say "jIHvaD
>yIQIj" or maybe "HIQIj". Your word-order was wrong: you put the subject
>before the verb. "Klingons do not drool" is "bolbe' tlhInganpu'."
>
>>qep'a'Daq qalegh'a'.
>
>HIja', pa' jISaH.
>
>~mark
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Ok, [email protected] and [email protected] are the same
persons, the mailer change autamtily the name, please unsuscribe me of
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thank
Jose Mijares
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