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Re: `Kahless' book



On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, A.Appleyard wrote:

>   Here is a list of Klingon words and names in a Star Trek scenario fiction
> book called "Kahless" by Michael Jan Friedman, publ. 1996 by Pocket Books,
> ISBN 0-671-54779-8. It alternates between (modern times on the Enterprise and

I'll try to see how many words I recognize.

> on Qo'noS in the time of the conspiracy against Gowron) and (ancient times
> when the Klingons were pre-industrial and ruled by many warring kingdoms and
> the original Kahless overthrew the tyrant Molor). I reproduce spellings and
> case of letters and all apparent printers' errors (e.g. {l} for {I}) as they
> are in the book. # = this seems to be a proper-name. The numbers are page
> numbers in the book. The placenames are on Qo'noS unless stated otherwise. In
> the story Klingons have patronymics, not surnames. (p232 and elsewhere says
> that Klingon blood is lavender-coloured.)
>   Here, the 60000-bars-of-gold-pressed-latinum question is "do we accept all
> this non-Okrand matter as canon?"; but after that:-
>   treehen = a species of bird <<<is an English word>>> 63
>   #DIS jajlo' = a cave 200, is stated to mean "dawn cave". But it is the wrong
> way round! and actually means "cave dawn". Unless it is a fossilized ancient
> form from when word order was freer and relationships between words was sorted
> out by now-lost case endings.
>   d'k tahg = a sort of 3-bladed dagger 108 looks like {DuQtaj} = "stab knife":
> this is a verb + noun compound. A better fit to the spelling would be {...taQ}
> or the like, but I can't find a sensible meaning for that.
>   {Vorcha-doh-baghk!} 299 was said in ancient times, and seems to be stated to
> mean "All hail!". I can't find any likely similar Okrand Klingon form; this
> may mean that (M.J.Friedman imagined that) tlhIngan Hol has changed much
> between Kahless's time and now; or it may mean that in the original Kahless's
> time the people of Qa'yarin spoke some other language than tlhIngan Hol:
> likely originally the peoples of Qo'noS spoke many widely different languages,
> like on Earth. (Perhaps `Klingonaase' is one such old Qo'noSian language.)
>   The non-standard phonetics in {Kurn} as well as {Worf} may mean that the
> Worf familyvame from an area of Qo'noS that spoke a non-standard dialect or
> language, or at least had spoken a non-standard dialect or language recently
> enough for a stock of traditional names with non-standard phonetics to survive
> to Picard's time.
>     -------------------------------------------------------
>   #Adjur = a modern Klingon 215
>   #Anag = an ancient Klingon 294
>   #B'aaj = an island or continent on Qo'noS, or a planet 176
>   #Badich = an ancient Klingon 225 (a healer)
>   #Bogra = an ancient Klingon 184
>   #Boreth = a monastery 1
>   #Chu'paq Sea 34
>   #DIS jajlo' = a cave, stated to mean "dawn cave" 200
>   #Divok = a modern Klingon 5
>   #Donar'ruq = a city on #Ter'jas Mor 174
>   #Duras = a modern Klingon 163
>   #Edronh = an ancient Klingon 139
>   #Fek'lhr = guardian of Gre'thor

veqlargh

>   #Godar = a modern Klingon 190,216
>   #Gon'rai Rebellion 41 (modern times, may not be on Qo'noS)
>   #Gowron = a modern Klingon 41
>   #Gre'thor = hell

ghe''or

>   #Inagh = a modern Klingon 120 (father of Rajuc)
>   #Kahless 1

qeylIS

>   #Kanjis = an ancient Klingon 26 (father of Kahless)
>   #Kardem = a modern Klingon 160
>   #Kellein = an ancient Klingon (Vathraq's daughter) 81
>   #Kerpach = a modern Klingon 30 (shopkeeper)
>   #Kerret'raa = an island or continent on Qo'noS, or a planet 217
>   #Koroth = a modern Klingon 4
>   #Kri'stak = a volcano 11
>   #Kurn = a modern Klingon 119 (brother of Worf)
>   #Lomakh = a modern Klingon 41
>   #Lusor = a lake
>   #M'rel = a modern Klingon 59
>   #M'riiah = a village 43
>   #Majjas = a modern Klingon 171
>   #Mogh = a modern Klingon (father of Worf) 130
>   #Molor = an ancient Klingon: the tyrant 23
>   #Morath = an ancient Klingon 32 (brother of Kahless)
>   #Muar'tek Festival 29
>   #Muuda = a modern Klingon 216
>   #Najuk = a modern Klingon 216
>   #Navrath = a city near Tolar'tu 34,300
>   #Nin'taga star system 71
>   #Noj = a modern Klingon 216
>   #Ogat = a Klingon colony world 119
>   #Olahg = a modern Klingon 1
>   #Ona'ja'bur = some natural steam baths in a cavern 158
>   #Ondagh = an ancient Klingon 56,184
>   #Porus = an ancient Klingon 64
>   #Praxis = the moon of Qo'noS 155
>   #Qa'yarin = a place where Molor's fortress was 219
>   #Ra'jahn = a place on Kerret'raa 217
>   #Rajuc = a modern Klingon 120 (a schoolmaster)
>   #Rannuf = an ancient Klingon 195
>   #Restagh = a modern Klingon 215
>   #Shurin = an ancient Klingon 64
>   #Starad = an ancient Klingon 44 (son of Molor)
>   #Sto-Vo-Kor = Valhalla
>   #T'chariv = a village 86,194
>   #Ter'jas Mor = an island or continent on Qo'noS, or a planet 174
>   #Tichar = a modern Klingon 290
>   #Tolar'tu = a town 29
>   #Toragh = an ancient Klingon 235 (a smith)
>   #Uhq'ra Mountains 22
>   #Unagroth = a modern Klingon 34
>   #Unarrh = a modern Klingon 34
>   #Vathraq = an ancient Klingon (a lord, friendly to Kahless) 81
>   #Yatron = an ancient Klingon 208 (son of Molor)
>   abin'do = a sort of pipe (musical instrument) 29
>   bat'telhmey (pl.) 206,259

{batlh'etlhmey} or {betleHmey}.  I have no idea why it's always "bat'telh".

>   Bljeghbe'chugh vaj blHegh! 290, stated to mean  "surrender or die!"
> ({bIjeghbe'chugh vaj bIHegh} = "If you don't surrender, then you die")
>   caw'va = a species of fruit like a melon 8
>   cob'lat = a big predatory animal? ("cob'lat's share" seems to mean "lion's
> share" 140)

I think this word was in ST:Klingon, but I don't remember what it means.

>   d'k tahg = a sort of 3-bladed dagger 108

daqtagh (ST:Klingon)

>   darsekmey (pl.) = (probably) a sort of coin 229
>   DujIIj yIvog 73 = "trust your instincts" (book gives meaning) (= Okrand
> {DujlIj yIvoq}) ({Duj} also = "spaceship")
>   en'chula = a species of red grass 128,187
>   gagh = a species of worm (= Okrand {qagh})
>   Jegh! 290 (stated to mean "surrender!" (short form)) (Okrand {jegh})
>   jinaq = a sort of amulet 133

I think this word was used in that STTNG episode where Worf finds those 
Klingons and Romulans living peacefully.  I think the word was the name 
of a bracelet or necklace given to a bride.

>   ko'tal = (noun, some sort of person) (meaning unclear) 232
>   krad'dak = a sort of drum (musical instrument) 29
>   kraw'za = a species of black carrion-eating bird 43 (pl. kraw'zamey)
>   m'ressa = a sort of wood (= timber) 228
>   micayah = a species of tree 1
>   minn'hor = a species of domestic & wild animal like an ox, pulls the plough,
> makes milk 43 (pl. minn'hormey)
>   mok'bara = a sort of clothes 187
>   p'tahk = an insult of contempt 32; (?a sort of animal 64?) (pl. p'tahkmey
> 110) (= Okrand {petaQ})
>   pherza = a species of stinging wasp 61,271 (makes wax 152)
>   qava = a sort of wood (= timber) 263
>   rach'tor = hunter? 298
>   s'tarahk = a species of riding animal 22 (pl. s'tarahkmey 24)
>   skannu = a sort of big black tree 256
>   targ = a species of animal 38 (Okrand {targh})
>   teqal'ya = a sort of wood (= timber) 220
>   thranx = a species of bush, flowers every 8th year 60
>   tor'rif = a sort of bread 81
>   tran'nuc = a sort of tree fruit 93
>   Vorcha-doh-baghk! (seems to be stated to mean "All hail!") 299
>   warnog = a sort of drink 230

wornagh

>   Yap 290 (stated to mean "Enough") (= Okrand {yap})
>   yolok = a species of worm 94
>   mok'bara = a sort of fighting technique 284

moQbara'

> 


Those were the words I recognized.  Well, there were also the names like 
Kurn, Gowron, etc.  But as for the rest, they don't look Okrandian to me.

dave yeung


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