tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu May 18 07:01:06 1995
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Re: tlh-H phonology question
>Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 17:37:07 -0400
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>On Wed, 17 May 1995 07:22:16 -0400, Marc Ruehlaender <[email protected]> said:
>[replying to me]
>>> (1) It seems counter-intuitive to treat final {w} and {y} as something
>>> other than consonants, because
>>> a. they are no different from word-initial {w} and {y} and
>> now I think [w] and un(?)syllabic [U] are different, dito for
>> [j] and [I], so you say /w/ = [w,U], /j/ = [j,I] ?
>Yes, if you wish. That is, if you insist on transcribing {aw} and {ay}
>as [aU] and [aI] rather than [aw] and [aj].
>> or do you say e.g. yay = [jA:j] not [jaI] ?
>Well, why not? But I wouldn't make much of that.
It is notable that Okrand saw fit to transcribe syllable-final "y" and "w"
using the same notation as syllable-initial ones, thereby implying that
watever the pronunciation, *phonemically* those sounds are considered the
same phonemes and thus are consonants.
~mark