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Re: jIlIHegh 'ach *poem* jImuch

>According to Mac Morgan:
>
>> *poem*-vam jIghItlhta' :
>> 
>> --------------------------
>> chalmey Doq
>> --------------------------
>If you provide an English translation, I can do a lot better
>job of telling you whether or not you got what you were after.
>Here, I'm not sure what you were after.
>

Quite right...see below

>> chalmey Doq jInajbe'           
>>      vIleghqa'ta'neSpa'         
>
>This one is confused. If {chalmey Doq} is supposed to be the
>object of {najbe'}, then you have the wrong prefix. 
>

I mistyped this one...and since I also fell prey to the TKD typos, I'll
retype the tlhingan along with the English.

>as intense as poetry. What would you think of a Martian who
>begins to learn English and decides to start out writing poetry
>before learning how to ask, "Where is the bathroom?"

Your point is well-taken, but even in English I tend to write
straightforward, grammatically correct poetry, so I don't *mean* to extend
poetic license beyond the bounds of literacy! :-/ 

>
>tIq wavlu'bogh
>
>Of course, this might be misinterpreted in the literal sense...
>Be careful how you use it. The wearing of body armor might be
>advised.

true... perhaps "soul" or "spirit" would be better...Klingons tend to be
literalists, don't they?  Unfortunately those are two other word I don't
know.

>{naj} is a verb, not a noun.

There is no noun for DREAM in TKD, but since it seems consistent with other
verb/nouns, such as BEAM [jol], BLAME [pIch], CHANGE [choH], GOSSIP [joS],
et al, I decided to appropriate *naj* as a noun.  Again, I don't intend to
invoke poetic license; if there's a better word please inform me.
 
>convey a thought. Great poems sometimes just sit there, though
>I may somewhat uniquely think that a great poem should be
>accessible. That is part of what would make it great.
>

I agree with you completely that a great poem should be accessible. I call
this little writing a poem (I do NOT call it great) because it is intended
to evoke a mood rather than convey information.  

>> mac
>> 
>
>charghwI'
>-- 

Ok...let's start again:  mu'bomwIj vImuchqa'


Chalmey Doq 
---------------------
nuqDaq chalmey Doq               
     vInajtaHbogh              
          vIqawbe'taHviS         

ghoSlI' jaghmey'a'
     'a naj qu' law'             
          Hoch qu' puS          

wav'eghDi' tiq'e'               
     biDDaq HIv biD 'ej        
          Hoch jeypu'          

chalmey Doq 
     vInajbe'           
          vIleghqa'ta'neSpa'         
  
------ Federation Standard ------

Where are the red skies 
   of which I dream 
      but do not remember?

Enemies come 
   but the dream 
      is the fiercest.

When the heart is divided
   part against part
      the whole is defeated.

I shall not dream 
   until I see again 
      the red skies.


Mac

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