tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Apr 08 04:00:12 1994
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KLBC: qajatlh
- From: [email protected] (Mark E. Shoulson)
- Subject: KLBC: qajatlh
- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:57:01 -0400
- In-Reply-To: Captain Krankor's message of Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:58:14 -0600 <[email protected]>
>From: Captain Krankor <[email protected]>
>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:58:14 -0600
>Certainly he speaks the best Klingon, in any case. {{:-)
>However, I have viewed this film many times, and I don't find the
>evidence to support your claims about lI' and lab.
>The definitions we're given in TKD are ultra-worthless. since the
>very concept of transmitting data has embedded in it the notion that
>the data moves *both* *from* one place *to* another. I've never
>been able to satisfactorily determine what the difference between
>lab and lI' could possibly be.
Well, in some sense you can be broadcasting data, which is transmitting it
from somewhere but not to anywhere in particular.
>What you end up claiming (in the followup post which I did not quote
>from) is that lab is to transmit data and lI' is to receive it.
>This doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. Hev is to receive,
>including data (used as such in ST5, reluctant though I am to rely
>on that particular source for too much). I'm sorry, but I can't
>find any way to read the words "transmit data (to a place)" as
>meaning "to receive data". They are just NOT the same thing at all.
No, it's not. To me, the distinction is more the emphasis. "lI'"
emphasizes where it's going. So the example in TKD, "yIlI'!" is an order
for some operative to transmit the data *TO HERE* (or wherever). That's
the point; I don't just want you to start sending out waves of info, I want
them to go someplace in particular. "lab" would put more emphasis on
transmission away from here, or at least not necessarily to someplace. So
"Su' labbeH" would make sense were it "lI'", but it works here too: the
transmission circuits of the apparatus are functioning, I can transmit data
from here.
Just a thought; must get going on my trip... Later days!
>Which reminds me, I found a *wonderful* example of such backfitting
>which I must share with you all. Unfortunately, I have my notes on
>it at home, but I'll try to post it later tonight; I've been meaning
>to post it for some time now (Yeah, mark, it's the one I told you
>about on the phone).
You have to, it's been killing me ever since you told me.
> --Krankor
~mark