tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Apr 07 06:33:29 1994

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Re: KLBC: qajatlh

Holtejvo':

>trI'Qalvo':
>
>> >tlhIngan Hol vIghojtaH vIHem.
>
>> One error!  Very nice, qor!
>> You actually have a subordinate clause in the first sentence, which you forgo
>t 
>> to mark with a type 9 suffix.  You can't have two verbs just following one 
>> another as you have originally, unless the second one (the one on the right) 
>> is <neH>, <jatlh> or <ja'>. (Please refer to the section on sentences as 
>> objects on pages 65-67 to see why these are the only verbs which can be used 
>> this way).  The addition of the suffix -mo' ("because") to your first verb 
>> clears this problem up:
>> 
>> 	tlhIngan Hol vIghojtaHmo', vIHem.
>> 	"Because I am continuing to learn Klingon, I am proud"

>My question is about the assertion, "you can't have two verbs just 
>following one another...unless the second one is <neH>, <jatlh>, or 
><ja'>.  But, what about those as mentioned in HolQeD 3:1 in Krankor's 
>article, double imperatives, and the "bite his leg off!" example?  I 
>just sent off a bunch of insults to Lawrence (hehe, I mean, in the 
>context of the contest!), two of which combined sentences in this way. 
>The only way the combination made sense was *without* the <'e'> 
>pronoun.

D00d.  Stop.  Read the subject header again.  This is the beginner's
list.  The kind of double-verbing you are talking about is
brand-new, poorly understood, highly advanced topic.  Even in my own
article, I was hard pressed to say much more about the construction
than that it exists.  trI'Qal is the Grammarian for the beginners
and as such her corrections are quite properly directed at that
level.  It was entirely appropriate for her to not list this case in
addressing cases-where-you-don't-put-two-verbs-together.  Your case
of doing insults with the double-verbed thing may well be entirely
valid-- it's just that the beginners conversation is not the right
place to bring this up.

                --Krankor

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