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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><pre><span lang=IT style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>vaghmaH ben ghel Guido wa’. jatlh, <br><br></span>“yIH nachHey 'arDaq SuplaH tlhIngan?”<br><br>ghaH vIqaw. rurchuqmo’ Dujmaj jIHem.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- Qov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> qurgh lungqIj [mailto:[email protected]] <br><b>Sent:</b> June 16, 2014 12:56<br><b>To:</b> Robyn Stewart<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The qaghwI' at the start of a sentence maybe confusing it. When I searched for arDaq I only got one hit though.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>qurgh<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Robyn Stewart &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>“The search &quot;'arDaq&quot; did not match any documents.”&nbsp; Are there search syntax tricks I need?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It’s hard to believe this hasn’t come up. I happened to put ‘ar in the online course right after the N5 suffixes, and the style of the course made it a natural question.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> qurgh lungqIj [mailto:<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> June 16, 2014 12:50<br><b>To:</b> Robyn Stewart<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 'arDaq</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You can search most of the archive via the new site at <a href="http://www.kli.org/activities/email-discussion-group/"; target="_blank">http://www.kli.org/activities/email-discussion-group/</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I just haven't updated it to the most recent posts yet.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>qurgh<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Robyn Stewart &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I’d do an archive search but ... website search sucks.</span><br><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Have we ever discussed the extension of ‘ar beyond subject and object?<br><br>We have the examples:<br>nIn ‘ar wIghaj?</span><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Haw’pu’ yaS ‘ar?</span><br><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I imagine that at some point I have said something like one of the following in conversation, completely unaware that I was doing anything odd.<br></span><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>?quS ‘arDaq</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>nav</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>vIlannIS? – How many chairs do I need to place paper on?</span><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>?HoH ‘armo’ bortaS wISuq?- How many killings will we get</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>vengeance for?</span><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>?nuv ‘arvaD Soj wIje’nIS? – How many people do we need to buy food for?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>These two feel weirder, especially the last. I would omit the –‘e’</span><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>?tera’Daq be’ ‘IH ‘ar tu’lu’? – How many beautiful women are there on Earth?<br>?muj mu’tlhegh ‘ar’e’ qonbogh Qov?</span><br><br><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In the light of ‘arlogh and qep’a’ wejDIchDaq</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I think I would argue for these forms. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-Qov</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tlhingan-hol mailing list<br><a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a><br><a href="http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol"; target="_blank">http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></body></html>
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