ghItlhpu' Qov, jatlh:
> In {SoHvaD tlhIngan Hol vIghojmoH} the lesson learned isn't
> really the object of the verb.
jang ghunchu'wI', jatlh:
> There's room for debate on the exact nuances of grammar at work, but
> what else but the object could it be?
jang je Qov, jatlh:
> What I suppose I meant was, "the lesson learned only gets to be the
> object of the verb because the student is hiding under the -vaD.
> Ordinarily the student should be the object of ghojmoH."
That's English talk. :) I'd argue it goes the other way: the student
can only sneak up the sentence hierarchy to direct object when there's
no other direct object to block it doing so. A while ago ghunchu'wI'
suggested it might be a parallel to the prefix trick, which makes some
sense to me.
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