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RE: Honoured

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



buSwI':
>> > QInlIj vIHev 'e' vIquv!
>> > (I am honored to receive your message)
Fiat Knox:
>This just cries out for an honorific Type 8 suffix:-
>
>  QInlIj vIHevneS - I am honored to receive your message!

Quite right.  There's also another reason:  {quv} "be honored" is a quality and so cannot take an object.  

>This would be used in the case where a respected superior assigns a
>subordinate courier duty.  -neS just seems more appropriate here.

TKD 43:  [{-neS}] is used to express extreme politeness or deference. It is used only in addressing a superior, someone of higher rank in the Klingon social, political, or military hierarchy. It is never required. [...] This suffix is used rather infrequently by Klingons.

KGT 38f.:  Though there is no situation in which the use of {-neS} is required and its use is rather infrequent, when it is used, it is used only when addressing someone of higher rank, such as a higher officer in the military or a high political leader. It would not be used by a higher-ranking officer, for example, when speaking to a lower-ranking officer, nor would it be used when talking about a higher-ranking person. [...] While it would be entirely inappropriate for a superior to say to an inferior {choQaHpu'neS} ("You, honored one, have helped me"), the superior may say {batlh choQaHpu'} ("You have helped me in an honored way" or "You have helped me with honor"). The relative ranking of individuals may be ascertained by noting who says {-neS} to whom.

KGT 192:  Furthermore, since {-neS} is used only in addressing a superior, saying {-neS} rather than {-nIS} may be bestowing honor inappropriately.


  qaleghneS 
  I am honored to see you. TKD

  HIja'neS 
  do me the honor of telling me  TKD

  choQaHpu'neS
  You, honored one, have helped me. KGT

  po'neS baHwI'pu'lI' 
  Your gunners are skilled, your Honor. PK

  DojneS mIplIj 
  Your wealth is impressive, your Honor. PK

  cha'puj vIngevmeH chaw' HInobneS 
  Give me a permit to sell dilithium, your honor. PK

  QaghwIj vIQIj 'e' yIchaw'neS 
  Permit me to explain my mistake, your Honor. PK

However if you really want to grovel, you can use {quv} and {-neS} together:

  naDev juHlIjDaq cha'logh jISopneSchugh vaj jIquv 
  It would be an honor to eat twice here at your house, your Honor. PK

 
-- 
Voragh                          
Canon Master of the Klingons





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