tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Apr 08 07:32:03 2004
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Re: Hov = star ?
ghItlh David Trimboli <[email protected]>:
> "Sun" may be treated as a proper noun or a common noun. It makes as much
> sense to talk of "the sun of Kronos" as it does to talk of "the Sun" on
> Earth.
Thats true, but I can just imagine a Klingon on Earth:
Klingon> ::points at the sun:: nuq 'oH pongDaj'e'?
Human> Sun..
Klingon> Ahh, Sun 'oH pongDaj'e' ::notes it down in his little dictionary::
Having moved from one country to another, I've actually been through this
experiance many times. I've pointed at plants, birds, bugs and food and said,
"What's that?". I've gotten back the name and used it, even if it's the thing's
name also a common noun. To me it makes perfect sense for us to use Sun as a
proper noun when talking about the Star in our solar system...
> How often do you look up at a clear sky and comment, "Sol is out"?
Being an amateur astronomer (and someone who had to learn latin) I've actually
done this a number of times, especially when I'm around geeky friends of mine.
Sol is the Latin name for the Sun, so once upon a time people did say, "Sol is
out" all the time... Also we do say Solar power, Solar system, so Sol does have
a place in morden English. Anyone know what other languages, besides English,
call the Sun?
> Regarding what Okrand says in KGT about {Hov} equalling "star," I'm not
> convinced that this means that the word {Hov} is used in absolutely exactly
> the same way as "star." Klingon popular music singers, for instance,
> probably aren't called {Hov}! English has a somewhat complicated set of
I agree with you there. Okrand isn't a physist or a cosmologist so he's most
likely thinking Hov is like the Star in Star Trek, not the star on American
Idol.
qurgh
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