tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Aug 22 11:36:57 1996
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Re: British Klingon! (Interview with Okrand)
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: British Klingon! (Interview with Okrand)
- Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:36:50 -0400 (EDT)
- In-reply-to: <[email protected]> (message from NiallHosking on Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:03:47 -0700)
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>Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:03:47 -0700
>From: Niall Hosking <[email protected]>
>Following on with the premier British television magazine 'Radio Times'
>doing a special for Star Trek's 30th Anniversary, they have published a
>special 168 page book for the price of #6.99 pounds sterling. In it, is
Neat!!
>The most interesting bit from this list's viewpoint is a 4-page spread
>where Mark Okrand is interviewed by 'Radio Times'. It mentions some
>interesting facts about the language's origin (based on influences from
>American Indian, Chinese, and Southeast Asian languages) as taken from
I wish I could see this... Oh! If I can get a letter through in time; I
have a friend from England coming in tomorrow...
>James Doohan and Mark Lenard. Mention is made of the KLI, as well as
>Glen Proechel's summer Language Camps, and of the various tlhIngan Hol
>products available. There is even a discussion of 'klingonaase', which
>Okrand likes! (He says that it's good to see that people are realising
>that in an 'Empire', there would be more than *one* language form.)
Very cool. The KLI has always (so far as I know) considered Klingonaase as
part of its charter, if anyone knew enough of it.
>1. We are U.K. Klingons! wo' tay' tlhInganpu' maH!
> We are together Empire Klingons!
"together-empire"/United Kingdom (WOW... when I typed this just now I typed
"Klingon" instead of "Kingdom". Eep).... that works.
>3. Give us a kiss, love. HIchop, bang.
> Bite me, love.
See below
>6. Not bloody likely! ghaytanHa' jay'!
> Not &*@%# likely!
Did he mention ghaytanHa' already in HolQeD? I think so. Either way, it's
a GOOD word to have. "Unlikely" is a nice thing to know.
>10. What has Lady Di done now? DaH nuq ta'pu' Day joH?
> What has Lord/Lady Di accomplished now? (the title "joH".
> meaning "Lord", is also used for a woman, ie. "Lady")
Ah, good. I wanted to have "joH" for females (hmm, maybe it was "qaH" I
expected. Either way. I think we have it that way in Hamlet).
>In summary, there is some new vocabulary (at least, new usages [a la
>TKW])
>wo' tay' United Kingdom (n)
>chop kiss (n)
It's a verb, and used as a verb in the sentence. Moreover, I don't buy
that Okrand says that "chop" *means* "kiss"; especially given the more
literal translation given it looks like he's giving a cultural analogue.
Klingons don't ask their loved-ones for kisses, but a nice friendly
bite...
~mark
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