tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jun 20 19:19:16 1995

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On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Jim Boniface wrote:

> >> I needed one more fare to make my night.
> >> mevpa' jIH Qav jIH DIl nuv vISuqnIs
> 
> If the above way was the best way to say "I needed one more fare to make my 
> night" would the sentence structure be ok?  My thinking on it was that since 
> there is no 'fare' in tlhIngan Hol, the "Qav jIH DIl" should be all together 
> and act like the verb, with "I needed" as the subject and "before I could 
> stop" as the object. Is that the right way to think about it?

No.  {Qav jIH DIl} says "It is final; I; It pays for it". The words have 
no grammatical relation to each other or to the rest of the sentence.  
The absence of any verb prefix indicate that {jIH} is neither the subject 
or object of either {Qav} or {DIl} and that both verbs have third-person 
subjects (i.e. the subject of both verbs is he/she/it or they).

{jImevpa'} would not be considered an object.  Technically, it is a 
subordinate clause. (See Sec. 6.2.2.)  {vISuqnIS} (I need to get it) is 
not a subject it is a complete sentence unto itself.  The verb prefix {vI-} 
indicates the subject is "I", the object is "he/she/it or they"; and the 
verb is {Suq}.

> >DaHjaj ram jImevpa' leng DIl raQpo' latlh 'e' vIpoQ.
> >(Before I stop tonight, I require that another passenger pays for a trip.)

In this sentence {DaHjaj ram jImevpa'} (Before I stop tonight) is also a 
subordinate clause.

{leng DIl raQpo' lalth 'e' vIpoQ} (I require that another passenger pays 
for a trip) is two sentences.  The first sentence, {leng DIl raQpo' 
lalth} is the object of the second sentence, {'e' vIpoQ}.  This is called a 
sentence-as-object construction.  {'e'} is a pronoun representing the 
first sentence as a whole and indicate that that sentence is the object of 
{vIpoQ}.  (See Sec. 6.2.5.)

> Jim

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