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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] meQboghnom

Steven Boozer (sboozer@uchicago.edu)



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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the citation.&nbsp;
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Speaking of banners, Okrand wrote to </span><span style="font-family:Courier">Lieven (1/09/2012):</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp; {<b>tlhIm}</b> is commonly used for a fabric wall hanging<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;(that might, for example, have a picture of the Klingon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;emblem on it). If a piece of cloth is displayed at the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;end of a pole, it is considered a {<b>joqwI'}</b> (&quot;flag&quot;); a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;{<b>tlhIm}</b> covers some sort of surface.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Vertical ceremonial banners were seen at the <i>Kot'baval</i> festival held at the Maranga IV outpost. (TNG &quot;Firstborn&quot;) A picture of the ceremonial banner (or maybe it was a wall hanging) was seen in DS9:
</span><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/AdmiralMudd/KCI/Banners/KlingonCeremonialBannersm.jpg";>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/AdmiralMudd/KCI/Banners/KlingonCeremonialBannersm.jpg</a><span style="font-family:Courier"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">BTW note the {ghach}-noun -- &nbsp;{</span>yeqchuqchu'taHghach} “unity” – probably the longest one Okrand has coined.&nbsp; Are there any other new ones in the paq’batlh?
 &nbsp;(Whenever you get the chance;&nbsp; I’m assuming that you have a searchable copy available.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> qurgh lungqIj [mailto:qurgh@wizage.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:43 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It appears in the paq'batlh on page 139:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">nIteb chegh molor ngIq ghoqwI'<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;joqwI''e' cha'bogh qeylIS<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;luDel 'e' ra' molor<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">lujang meQboghnom 'oH<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;yeqchuqchu'taHghach<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;Daw' je joqwI'<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One by one Molor's scouts return,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;He asks them which banner<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;Kahless marches under<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They reply it is the meQboghnom*<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;The banner of unity<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp; &nbsp;and revolution<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Kahless's meQboghnom, a name comprised from the roots &quot;burn&quot; (meQ), &quot;to be born&quot; (bogh) and &quot;fast&quot; (nom) expresses his revolutionary intentions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Steven Boozer &lt;<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu"; target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">&gt; Quvar (Lieven) today pointed me at the word {meQboghnom}, which appears<br>
&gt; in the {paq'batlh}. &nbsp;It is said to be the name of Kahless'<br>
&gt; banner of unity and revolution, under which his armies marched.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hmm... &quot;burning &#43; fast/quickly&quot;?? &nbsp;Could this refer to the line from the Anthem:<br>
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&nbsp; Our lives burn short and bright<br>
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which Okrand translated as:<br>
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&nbsp; nI'be' yInmaj 'ach wovqu'.<br>
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For those with the {paq'batlh}, what's the context?<o:p></o:p></p>
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