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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] "Today is a good day to be that guy"

Felix Malmenbeck (felixm@kth.se)



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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">&quot;*that* guy&quot; is a difficult concept to pin down; in fact, I don't think I can translate it even into my native tongue.<br>
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I believe that &quot;*that* guy&quot; normally refers to &quot;somebody who fits the description of a person you will inevitably run into in a certain context, thus fulfilling the prophecy that 'there always has to be *that* guy'&quot;.<br>
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It seems there's usually a negative connotation, sometimes with the implication that *that* guy is &quot;why we can't have nice things&quot;.<br>
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Going to a party where wine is served? You just know there's gonna be *that* guy who has too much.<br>
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Famous actor? You just know there's gonna be *that* guy who calls out to you across the room by the name of a character you played once.<br>
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Want to sleep, but your neighbors are playing loud music? Well, you could go over there and ask them to turn the volume, but ... it would make you *that* guy.<br>
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I wonder if the closest equivalent in Klingon may actually be {vIl}: Something which is just *there*. Certainly not a perfect translation, though.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I get that &quot;that guy' overdoes things to get attention. Like Will Wheaton didn't do when he refrained from saying &quot;Qapla'&quot; to the guy with the tattoo, or the guy with the tattoo was admitting to being for having it. When Will Wheaton said &quot;Today
 is a good day to be that guy,&quot; he was saying it can be cool to be that guy. There are degrees of being that guy, and the tattoo was cool. Lampshade over the head, not cool.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Alan Anderson <span dir="ltr">
&lt;<a href="mailto:qunchuy@alcaco.net"; target="_blank">qunchuy@alcaco.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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Is &quot;be that guy&quot; supposed to imply &quot;act like a jerk&quot;? I always thought<br>
it referred to someone doing or saying something that most people<br>
already were thinking.<br>
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If &quot;act like a jerk&quot; is the intended idea, don't we have a verb for<br>
it? I'm thinking {nguq} &quot;be arrogant&quot;, or {Qaq} &quot;behave in a falsely<br>
honorable fashion&quot;. {Qaqlu'meH QaQ jajvam}<br>
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-- ghunchu'wI'<br>
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