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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Story: ghuv = The Recruit - 49
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It is my custom when I write stories, to transfer the degree of certainty in V6s to the POV character in the scene. I can’t remember if anyone has complained about it before. I think it’s a valid objection but I also think it’s a valid technique, less ‘out there’ than concrete poetry. I think it’s akin to describing a scene in the voice and experiences of a character, so that when one POV character passes the field s/he sees “a horse” while another sees “a three year old anglo-arab, chestnut with a white stocking on the off hindleg.” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>By your logic I could almost never use –Hey in a narrative, because when the characters see what to them is a mangHey, I the author know it is a mangna’. How would you feel in an English language story if the author wrote, “Torg sees a bucket.” and then later in the story it turns out to be a cat? I’m telling you “Torg seems to hear a motor whining.” I know damn well whether he hears a motor whining or not [he does] but I’m not going to give it away yet. It doesn’t work for you that I as the author am saying I think he can hear a motor.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s noted, however that the technique didn’t work for you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As for vIng, I use it in both English senses and if forced to surrender one I would surrender the “complains” meaning, not the “makes a high pitched noise” meaning, because we have such a paucity of onomatopoeia.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But all together you would be content with <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>'aplo'Daq chuSlaw’ nguSDI' 'e' Qoy torgh.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Which I like better anyway. I probably started with nguSDI’ Qoylaw’ torgh and then added the SAO.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I really appreciate you reading and commenting, and in no way want to shoot you down. Please anyone else comment on whether my V6 use seems appropriate to you.<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> De'vID [mailto:[email protected]] <br><b>Sent:</b> November 6, 2013 2:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> tlhIngan-Hol<br><b>Cc:</b> Robyn Stewart<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Story: ghuv = The Recruit - 49<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><br>On 13 Oct 2013 18:13, "Robyn Stewart" <<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br>> 'aplo'Daq vIng nguSDI' 'e' Qoylaw' torgh. = "In the container a motor<br>> whines - Torg uncertainly hears that." i.e. "Torg thinks he might hear a<br>> motor whining in the container."<o:p></o:p></p><p>{-law'} expresses uncertainty on the part of the speaker, not the subject, though.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Also I'm not sure {vIng} applies to {nguSDI'}.<o:p></o:p></p><p>-- <br>De'vID<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>_______________________________________________
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