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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon dialogue in STID (major spoilers)

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<p dir="ltr">QeS &#39;utlh:<br>
&gt; Could one of the viewers of the English version have inadvertently missed a subtitle in their transcription?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Yes, it&#39;s certainly possible that the English transcription is out of sync due to viewer error. </p>
<p dir="ltr">QeS &#39;utlh:<br>
&gt; I had this as {jIyI&#39;} as well. It was one of Saldana&#39;s most clearly articulated word tokens. Unfortunately {yI&#39;} doesn&#39;t correspond to anything we know. :/</p>
<p dir="ltr">Clearly, it means &quot;to address someone with respect&quot;. :-)</p>
<p dir="ltr">&gt; &gt; Klingon leader: toH, Hegh Humanpu’. qatlh DISaH?<br>
&gt; &gt; English sub: Why should I care about a human killing humans?</p>
<p dir="ltr">QeS &#39;utlh:<br>
&gt; I thought this should be {qatlh jISaH} (backed up by &quot;I&quot; in the English sub), not {qatlh DISaH}, though of course either is grammatical.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Yes, it could&#39;ve been {jISaH}. The Klingon&#39;s voice sounded tinny like it was processed.</p>
<p dir="ltr">QeS &#39;utlh:<br>
&gt; Given the English sub, and the fact that I had {jISaH} in the previous subtitle, I think {bI[qaw|qel]ba&#39;} is more accurate. Still not sure what this verb root is, though.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The whole second half is unclear.</p>
<p dir="ltr">De&#39;vID:<br>
&gt; &gt; (If you strain, you can get {QoblI&#39;ba&#39; SoH juppu&#39;lI&#39; je} out of it...<br>
&gt; &gt; by assuming that Uhura mispronounces {&#39;} by making the vowel before it<br>
&gt; &gt; nasally, so it sounds almost like {ng} or {q}. But it&#39;s a bit of a<br>
&gt; &gt; stretch.)</p>
<p dir="ltr">QeS &#39;utlh:<br>
&gt; {QoblI&#39;ba&#39;} would be ungrammatical. I think there&#39;s something else going on here.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I thought it was a huge stretch too. Maybe she did say {bang} and accidentally insulted the Klingon!</p>
<p dir="ltr">QeS &#39;utlh:<br>
&gt; ST:ID is still playing until late tomorrow night here, so I might go and take one last poke at it with this transcript in hand, to see if any more can be wrung out of it.</p>
<p dir="ltr">maj.</p>
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