tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jun 03 07:16:26 2013
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Cable, Thread, Wire, Web
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">{mIr} “chain”<br>
{tlhegh} “line, rope <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">{SIrgh} “string, thread, filament”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier">KGT 76: Each string is a {<b>SIrgh}</b>, a word also used for any thread or filament. A {<b>SIrgh}</b> of the finest quality is made from a material secreted by insects, similar to the silk produced by
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*{SIrghpat [Qatlh]} “[complex, (intricate?)] cobweb”?? To be clear you can always preface it with {ghew} “bug, insect”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As for metals, the late Glen Proechel used *{baS qIj} for iron ("black metal"), *{baS Doq} for copper ("red metal"), and *{baS SuD} for brass ("yellow/green metal").
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">GILGAMESH used *{baS wagh} for gold, silver, etc. (“precious metal”). I imagine this would include latinum.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Other options: *{baS chIS} “white metal”, *{baS boch} “shiny metal”, *{baS wov} “light/bright metal”, etc.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Fiat Knox [mailto:[email protected]]
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black">SIrgh gets the job done.<br>
But "web" as in "cobweb," I still need. And does anyone have a translation for "silver?"<br>
For that matter, how about "gold" and "copper?" "baS SuD" and "baS Doq" respectively perhaps?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Felix Malmenbeck <<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">I wonder if «SIrgh» might not be more appropriate. «'ul QaymeH SIrgh» for a power wire, maybe «jabbI'ID SIrgh» for data lines...<br>
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From: Fiat Knox [<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>]<br>
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Wondering about how to describe the word "wire" into Klingon, I found myself thinking *baS tlhegh* /metal line/.<br>
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The word tlhegh naturally led to *tlhegh'a'* for /cable, hawser,/ *baS tlhegh'a'* for /metal cable, hawser/ and *tlheghHom* for /thread, strand./<br>
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But then I ran up against /web./<br>
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Perhaps *tlheghHom jonwI'* could be what I'm looking for?<br>
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Further: has anyone translated "silver?" I want to use the phrase "silver cord."<br>
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