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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: naj

David Trimboli ( [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

On 8/30/2013 11:48 PM, Bellerophon, modeler wrote:

Back to verb prefixes, I take it {jatlh} is the only verb that uses
intransitive prefixes when a direct object is specified (in the case
of {jatlh}, the direct quote).

A direct quotation is never an object. {jatlh} CAN take an object, as in
{SoQ vIjatlh} "I speak the lecture; I give a lecture." The prefix of {jatlh} is the same as for any other verb.

According to <> (who started
that anyway? I see some contributions by Qurgh, but a lot more by
Anonymous), the object of {ja'} is the addressee rather than the
direct quote, so one uses it thus: yaS vIja' <direct quote>, rather
than yaS jIja' <direct quote>.

The possible objects of {ja'} have never been clarified to my satisfaction. No examples of {ja'} show an explicit object, but several use prefixes that indicate an object (e.g., {qaja'pu'} "I told you"). But I think it would be perfectly reasonable to use sentences like {lut vIja'pu'} "I told the story" or {Dotlh yIja'} "Report status!" Does canon reflect a form of the prefix trick? Is the object of {ja'} broad enough to reflect either a direct or indirect object? Or is that wiki correct and the object is always the party being told something, and that something can only ever be a direct quotation?


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