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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI': 17. ghojwI'pu'lI' tISaH

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



loghaD:
>> Combining these examples, it seems to me that perhaps the object
>> of {toS} is the thing which one climbs.

QeS: 
> Indeed - as you show, paq'raD 14:4 supports this explicitly: [] 
> {...chalqach toS} "he climbs the tower".
 
>> One's starting point is marked with -vo', and one's destination with -Daq.
> 
> Again, an entirely reasonable conclusion.
> 
>> Not sure if a person who climbs cliffs for sport with no real
>> destination would be said to {qoj toS} or {qojDaq toS}, though.
 
> Well, I suppose there is still a destination as often as not - the top of
> the cliff (or, for abseilers, the bottom), so I reckon either {qoj toS} or
> {qojDaq toS} would probably be okay.

To specify destination, we have {yor} "top (exterior)" and in the paq'batlh the volcano Kri'stak's top is referred to as its {yor}:

  yor nej qeylIS mIn 
  Kahless looks up (paq'raD 18:6))

[I don't have the text of the full stanza, only this line. Anyone?]  So I imagine it would work like this:

 ? HuD yorDaq toS
   he climbed the mountain 
   he climbed to the top/summit of the mountain [i.e. destination]

 ? HuD toS
   he climbed the mountain [i.e. as an activity]


--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons



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