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Re: Yet another newbie!

Karl-Filip Faxen (kff@sics.se)



Tracy Canfield wrote:
> A quick question about Swedish, because it might get you a better answer
> about Klingon:
> Would you say these two Swedish words are pronounced differently?
> Specifically the s sound?
> 
> lössen
> lösen

Hmm... the main difference in in the ö sound, which is short in 'lössen' 
but long in 'lösen'. As for the 's' versus 'ss', I have never thought 
about it, but now that I say them, I think that my toungue touches the 
roof of my mouth further back when I say 'lösen' and that the 's' sound 
is maybe somewhat longer in 'lössen'. Anyway I do not percieve a big 
difference in the 's' sound.

{buSwI'}

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>>tlhIngan Hol vIghoj vIneH!
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>>Here is another Swedish newbie. Thing is, there was a program on Swedish
>>television about a month ago about artificial languages, and in particular
>>Klingon. Interviews with Marc Okrand, Arika Okrent and notable Swedish
>>Klingonists. And I got caught.
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>>So I have gotten KLD and downloaded {pojwI'}, which I'm using together
>>with a flashcard program called Anki (tip to Jacob!) which is nice since
>>you get to make your own cards and it uses a spaced repetition algorithm
>>to show them to you suitably often.
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>>I wonder if anyone have good ideas for pronounciation training; I have
>>used the descriptions, the recorded phrases at the KLI site and the Forvo
>>site. And of course, I listen to {taH pagh taHbe'} over and over again ;-)
>>But beyond that?
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>>One thing in particular that puzzles me is how {Duy'a'} and {Duy''a'}
>>differ in sound, that is, how to say {''}.
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>>Also, I wonder about using locative in a noun phrase, as in {bIQDaq veng},
>>my attempt at translating "the city on the water" (yes, I know a true
>>Klingon would not associate his city with water...). Is that ok?
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>>{jIlabta'}
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>>   {buSwI'}
>>   aka kff
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