tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jun 24 05:34:00 2009
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RE: Klingon orthography (was: Okrand at qep'a')
> >>> If there is (which I doubt), it would have to use only the 26
> >>> letters of the English alphabet, possibly with the apostrophe, as is
> >>> the case now.
> >> Why?
> > For me it would be because that is what is on my keyboard.
> There is a difference between what is printed on a keyboard and what
> is accessible via a keyboard driver. Alt and shift-alt (option and
> shift-option) are widely used to extend keyboards beyond what is on
> the key caps. The euro sign didn't use to be in keyboard drivers. It
> is now.
I am aware of that. I currently have the drivers for Maori and Thai on my home computer, and I have done Russian and Arabic on my computer at work. I don't like doing excessive key combinations, especially when it would need to be done in so many words.
> >> All of the characters use the Latin script.
> >>> Where's the "dotless question mark" key on a Latin keyboard?
> >> The glottal stop? On my keyboard I type shift-option-. and
> then space
> >> to get it. ÊÊÊÊ
> > What do you mean by "option"?
> > Shift-. gives me ?
> By "option" I mean the "alt" key, using the Irish Extended
> keyboard on
> Mac OS X. Shift-. gives me ? too. Alt-. gives me â.
> Shift-alt-. gives
> me a deadkey which can generate É Æ É Æ É É É Æ É Æ Ê Ê Ê
> Æ Ê É Æ È (a bunch of letters with hooks used in IPA, African
> languages, and Gothic).
> All operating systems support multiple keyboard drivers.
> >>> Your examples are full of untypeable characters, and a few
> >>> unprintable ones.
> >> I typed nearly all of them with the Irish Extended keyboard that
> >> ships with Mac OS X.
> > Ah! I don't have an Irish Extanded keyboard.
> It is not hardware. My hardware keyboard is the Apple standard UK
> keyboard (same as the Apple standard US keyboard except for
> two small
> differences irrelevant here). If you are running Mac OS X the Irish
> Extended keyboard (software keyboard driver) is in there.
The "option" label is hardware. I didn't know about that key. Is it next to the "any" key?
> > Some of your characters didn't show up on my computer.
> One would have to ask what computer it is, and what operating
> Not "showing up" means most likely that you don't have a font
> installed that covers them.
But on some computers, like if I read my mail at work or in a hotel lobby, I can not install some other font. What ever system we use would need to work with the "default" install.
> > On my PDA, those that do show up are completely different symbols.
> That's a little too vague for me to imagine what you are seeing.
Whether you knew more or not wouldn't change what symbol shows up on my PDA.