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Re: Klingon orthography (was: Okrand at qep'a')

Michael Everson (

On 23 Jun 2009, at 13:21, ghunchu'wI' wrote:

> On Jun 22, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Michael Everson wrote:
>> NuqneH
> It's hard for me to take a post on orthography seriously when it  
> begins by ignoring the standard orthography.

Had this complaint earlier.

> On 23 Jun 2009, at 10:12, Michael Roney, Jr. wrote:
>> First I find it amusing that a post about orthography starts with an
>> orthographic typo.
> Ah. Recte "nuqneH". See? I just can't STAND sentences that don't begin
> with capital letters. Nuqneh!

>> Is there scope for a spelling reform in the Latin orthography for  
>> Klingon?
> There might be, but your proposals don't look like Latin orthography  
> to me.

All of the characters use the Latin script.

> Where's the "dotless question mark" key on a Latin keyboard?

The glottal stop? On my keyboard I type shift-option-. and then space  
to get it. ÊÊÊÊ

> Your examples are full of untypeable characters, and a few  
> unprintable ones.

I typed nearly all of them with the Irish Extended keyboard that ships  
with Mac OS X. There are a few characters, like q-with-stroke, which  
are new to Unicode and have not made it into core font updates yet, it  
is true.

> If your goal is to make searches work better, there's already the  
> Unicode PUA mapping.

For what? For the pIqaD? That's orthogonal to the question of Q/q etc.

> If you want it to be more "readable", I think you're trying to solve  
> something which is not a problem, and I think your proposed  
> solutions are counterproductive.

"Counterproductive" to what?

I will ask you again, however, to look at the different oiptions  
posted, and indicate which look "better" and which look "worse".

> I also strongly disagree with your statement that mutable case can  
> "make any text easier to read", though I don't consider it important  
> enough to debate.

That's why all Latin orthographies make use of case. If it were not  
useful, it would be abandoned. I see that you use it when you write  

Michael Everson *

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