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Re: Once more into the ship in which I fled

David Trimboli ( [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

McArdle wrote:
> --- On Fri, 6/19/09, 
> <> wrote:
>> There is no necessity for relative clauses modifying nouns in
>> non-core roles, so it's not fruitful to invent ways to do it.
>> Simply use two sentences: I fled in a ship.  Once more into that
>> ship.
>> This is a long-known solution; I merely bring it up again.
>> lay'tel SIvten
> That strikes me as less a solution than a rationalization for not 
> finding a solution.  

No, it's a solution which says that Klingon doesn't do what you're 
asking at all, or at least if there's a way it is unknown and probably 
unknowable without input from Okrand.

> There's always that nagging "restaurant in which
>  we ate" example in TKD to suggest that a real solution (one that's 
> recognizably a relative clause, not a transparent workaround) is at 
> least theoretically possible.
> Qapla'
> mI'qey

I have yet to see any reason to believe that the appearance of "the 
restaurant where we ate" is anything but an example explaining how a 
relative clause works in *English*. I do not feel nagged by it in the 

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