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Re: pIqaD bom

Michael Roney, Jr. (nahqun@gmail.com)



Interesting. You placed qagh- on a previously unknown-to-me note.
And introduced yet another English ending.
I'm starting to think that no one sings this song the same way (I was introduced to a peculiar UK version last night).
~naHQun

-Michael Roney, Jr.
Professional Klingon translator
http://twitter.com/roneyii

--Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Renee Scherer wrote:

Quite true--sorry.  How's this?

http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31/tlharin/?action=view&current=KLI_alphabet_song.jpg



--R





On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com>wrote:



> Sadly this is a plain text list.

> You'll have to post the pic somewhere and link to it.

> Flickr or Photobucket would work.

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> ~naHQun

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> -Michael Roney, Jr.

> Professional Klingon translator

> http://twitter.com/roneyii

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> --Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Renee Scherer wrote:

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> If anyone else is more visual, I placed the originally-suggested mapping

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> existent song (used one new line suggestion as well)--hope it attaches.

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> > My line breaks or pauses are just the way my brain processes the song.

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> > If it doesn't make sense, just break them somewhere else.

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> > --Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Mark J. Reed wrote:

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> > On 7/29/09, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com<amp%3Blt%3Bnahqun@gmail.com>

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> > > While my wife has recently informed me of the similarities between this

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> > > and Twinkle, Twinkle; I have never compared the two in this manner.

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> > > As mentioned ' is 2 syllables which leaves us 1 syllable short.

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> > > The DaH was moved up to cover the "missing" syllable, and I dropped the

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> > > --Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Steven Boozer wrote:

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> > >>Not getting the scansion.  I learned the English as follows:

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> > > What do you think of me?  (How I wonder what you are)

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-- 

Renee Scherer



ischerer@umich.edu

tlharin@gmail.com

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University of Michigan











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