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Re: pIqaD bom

Renee Scherer (tlharin@gmail.com)



Quite true--sorry.  How's this?
http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31/tlharin/?action=view&current=KLI_alphabet_song.jpg

--R


On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com>wrote:

> Sadly this is a plain text list.
> You'll have to post the pic somewhere and link to it.
> Flickr or Photobucket would work.
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> ~naHQun
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> -Michael Roney, Jr.
> Professional Klingon translator
> http://twitter.com/roneyii
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> --Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Renee Scherer wrote:
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> If anyone else is more visual, I placed the originally-suggested mapping
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> onto sheet music to understand how what was provided could be used with the
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> existent song (used one new line suggestion as well)--hope it attaches.
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> Kept the English on the sheet for sake of comparison.
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> --Renee
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> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. &lt;nahqun@gmail.com<lt%3Bnahqun@gmail.com>
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> > Apparently my spacebar stuck.
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> > My line breaks or pauses are just the way my brain processes the song.
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> > If it doesn't make sense, just break them somewhere else.
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> > ~naHQun
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> > -Michael Roney, Jr.
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> > Professional Klingon translator
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> > http://twitter.com/roneyii
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> > --Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Mark J. Reed wrote:
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> > But why does your first line stop where it does?
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> > 'at bay chay Day 'et ghay Hay'It jay lay may
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> > And why are {Hay} and {'It} joined together?
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> > On 7/29/09, Michael Roney, Jr. &amp;lt;nahqun@gmail.com<amp%3Blt%3Bnahqun@gmail.com>
> &lt;lt%3Bnahqun@gmail.com <lt%3Blt%253Bnahqun@gmail.com>>>
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> > > While my wife has recently informed me of the similarities between this
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> > > and Twinkle, Twinkle; I have never compared the two in this manner.
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> > > I simply took each English letter as 1 syllable except for w which is 3
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> > > As mentioned ' is 2 syllables which leaves us 1 syllable short.
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> > > My song ends with "w x y &amp;amp;amp; z" with only 1 &amp;amp;amp;,
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> > > The 'o'megh is "Now I know my ABC's, next time won't you sing with me.
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> > > The DaH was moved up to cover the "missing" syllable, and I dropped the
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> > > Is this making more sense?
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> > > ~naHQun
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> > > -Michael Roney, Jr.
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> > > --Sent from my Palm PrÄ?Steven Boozer wrote:
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> > > >From Mark J. Reed's mobile device:
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> > >>Not getting the scansion.  I learned the English as follows:
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> > >>A,B,C,D,E,F,G.      (Twinkle twinkle little star)
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> > >>H,I,J,K,L-M,N-O,P.  (How I wonder what you are)
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> > >>Q,R,S.              (Up above)
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> > >>(and) T,U,V         (the world so high)
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> > >>W,X and Y and Z     (like a diamond in the sky)
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> > >>Which would map to something like this:
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> > > Now I know my ABC's.      (Twinkle twinkle little star)
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> > > What do you think of me?  (How I wonder what you are)
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> > > Which would be something like:
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> > >   DaH pIqaD'e' vISov.
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> > >   DaH vuDlIj'e' yIja'!
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> > > though a more Klingon approach would be:
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> > Mark J. Reed &amp;lt;markjreed@gmail.com<amp%3Blt%3Bmarkjreed@gmail.com>&
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-- 
Renee Scherer

ischerer@umich.edu
tlharin@gmail.com
(224) 717-1894
University of Michigan





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