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Re: Changing The Language By Inference (was Re: Purpose Clauses)

...Paul ([email protected]) [KLI Member] 

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, QeS 'utlh wrote:
>> There's a difference between being understandable, and being correct;  I
>> *understand* what is said by /DIlmeH/ but I wonder if it's a minor error,
>
> You said that if you saw {rarmeH mu' yIlo'} you would understand that as
> being support for my hypothesis, but you say you see {Dochvetlh DIlmeH Huch
> 'ar DaneH} as an error. What is the difference between the two?

wa' wanI' Dalo'chugh qech DatoblaHbe' -- 'ach cha' wanI' wIghajchugh, chaq 
wItoblaH...  pImbe' mu'tlheghvetlh, 'ach cha' wanI' tu'lu'mo' jIQochbe'...

(I could not come up with a good way to make reference to "two points make 
a line" or the idea that "a single example doesn't make for a pattern...", 
failing miserably for good recastings for "points" or "pattern"...)

>> The answer to both of your points is the same, which I sheepishly admit is,
>> as you say, Anglo-centric...   To me, suffixes, at the very least, change a
>> term.
>
> Ah. I thought you were referring to the change in verb *prefixes*, not
> suffixes. Obviously the addition of verb suffixes changes meaning, often
> substantially.

moHaq vI'agh je, 'ach ram.

> If I've been one of those to show disrespect, accept my apologies. Frankly,

chovuHa'be'bej.

>> I find myself in the same position the last time my interest in the
>> language was piqued -- the membership of this list is not conducive to
>> original contribution.  You either find people complaining that this list
>> is simply for people to speak, in Klingon, about random crap,
>
> ...which is perfectly acceptable, as that's one of the goals of the list.

jIQochbe' -- 'ach ghom ngoQ ghajbe' neH...  ben qaStaHvIS /Round Table/, 
tera'ngan lulo'pu'.  taH lurDechvetlh 'e' wIchaw'nIS...

> caution more for what I think it is: an attempt to stop people developing
> the language so much that we get another Proechel-like breakaway, which I
> frankly don't think the membership can afford.)

maQochbe' 'ej qechvetlh vIQutlh...  veHDaq maSumnIS 'ach wIwembe'... 
vaj chay' maruch?

...Paul

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