tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Feb 19 07:47:31 2007
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Re: pronouns with noun suffixes
be''etlh:
> > Is there canon about the use of noun suffixes on pronouns? Most would be
> > illogical or nonsensical, like type 4, but some of the type fives, like
> -vaD
> > or -mo' would be quite useful.
Oddly enough, there are no examples with {-mo'} but that's probably because
the sample is so small. AFAIK there are only 3 actual examples of the noun
suffix {-mo'} attested. (There are 7 examples with the verb suffix {-mo'}.)
lay'tel SIvten:
>I didn't find anything specifically about this in TKD beyond the following
>(on page 52, 5.1. Pronouns):
>
> Pronouns may be used as nouns, but only for emphasis or
> added clarity. They are not required.
FYI here's another comment by Okrand about pronouns vs. nouns:
Okrand communicated privately with members of the KSRP that pronouns
(being a subset of nouns) could indeed be used with stative verbs.
Thus, {SoH po' law' jIH po' puS} is correct. (HQ 4.2:3)
>but I found several canon examples of pronouns used with noun suffixes. All
>of the examples have only type-5 suffixes, and no example has {-mo'}.
lay'tel found almost all of them. I found only two more from a HolQeD article:
>{-Daq}
> KGT1 1432
> {#jIHDaq Daqang#}
> You always agree with me, you always cooperate with me
> (lit.) You pour [something] into me.
>
> tape PK180
> [hm] "May the spirit of Kahless live within you." =
> [mo] {SoHDaq qeylIS qa' yInjaj.}
jIHDaq Sum raS
The table is near me. (HQ 12/1998)
SoHDaq Sum raS
You are near the table. (HQ 12/1998)
There are, of course, more examples of pronouns with verb suffixes - about
half of those being {-taH}.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons