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Re: pronouns

QeS 'utlh ([email protected])



ghItlhpu' Shane MiQogh, ja':
>Daj 'e'...

Just say {Daj}. {'e'} can't be a subject, and I doubt that it can sensibly 
take noun suffixes either.

>nI' poH, tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhbe'pu'.

A suggestion: the verb phrase {qaStaHvIS} "while it happens" is 
extraordinarily useful in Klingon. {qaStaHvIS nI' poH tlhIngan Hol 
vIjatlhbe'pu'} "I have not spoken Klingon for a long time". {qaStaHvIS 
Hoghvam jIroptaH} "I have been sick this week". {qaStaHvIS noHvetlh vISuv} 
"I fought them during that war".

>'e'mo', *horribly* tlhIngan Hol vIjatlh...

You might try {tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhHa'} "I mis-speak Klingon". Compare the 
pair {yaj} "understand" and {yajHa'} "misunderstand".

>I translate lack as a seperate word with a related meaning.

That's reasonable. Nevertheless, grammatically, {Hutlh} behaves exactly like 
{ghaj}, and I think that's all that Voragh was trying to point out by using 
{Hutlh}.

>And i really dont' consider -be' and -Qo' or any other verb suffixes as 
>conjugation.

You've missed Voragh's point: he was primarily showing you the use of verb 
*prefixes*, not verb suffixes. By this standard, all true verbs in Klingon 
*must* conjugate according to subject and object (most of the time, anyway; 
you can decide for yourself whether you think {-meH}-clauses modifying nouns 
necessarily take verb prefixes). {ghaj} is no exception. Anyway, 
Merriam-Webster defines "conjugation" as "a schematic arrangement of the 
inflectional forms of a verb" (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/conjugation, 
definition 1a), and if the verb suffixes aren't inflectional forms of the 
Klingon verb, I'd like to know what they are.

QeS 'utlh
tlhIngan Hol yejHaD pabpo' / Grammarian of the Klingon Language Institute


not nItoj Hemey ngo' juppu' ngo' je
(Old roads and old friends will never deceive you)
     - Ubykh Hol vIttlhegh

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