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Re: [tlhIngan-Hol] Re: Hoch placement

Alan Anderson ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

ja' SuStel:
>As for {tlhIngan Hoch}, there's only slim evidence as to what that might
>mean.

On the contrary -- the evidence is ample.

>SkyBox card S15 has a phrase, {tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH wej
>HochHom }, translated, "most of the 23rd century."  It suggests that when
>after a noun, {Hoch} means "all of the noun."

TKW gives us {nIn Hoch} for "all of the fuel".  That's more than a suggestion.

>tlhIngan Hoch
>all of the Klingon (not part of him)

Sounds fine to me.  "The Klingon's all."

>I couldn't say what {tlhInganpu' Hoch} might mean, if anything,...

I think it's a straightforward "all of the Klingons", in a presuppositional
rather than existential fashion.  It doesn't bring a collection of Klingons
into consideration; rather, it is talking about an already established
group.

>and I cannot
>say for sure whether {Hoch} behavior can be used for other count-type words
>(like {bID} "half").

I can't even convince myself that {bID} *is* a "count-type" word in the
first place.

-- ghunchu'wI'

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