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Re: DCKL translation problems: {yaH}

Philip Newton ([email protected]) [KLI Member]



On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:45:46 +0100, Lieven L. Litaer (Quvar)
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 14.01.2004 06:29:33, schrieb Philip Newton <[email protected]>:
> 
> >> I'll now just translate it literally, "be taken away" =
> >> "weggenommen sein"
> >
> >Not "weggenommen werden"?
> 
> Wouldn't that be "being taken away"?
> 
> 1. "weggenommen (worden) sein"
>        has the meaning "it's gone"

I'd translate that "having been taken away"

> 2. "weggenommen werden"
>        describes the action of taking away

This is how I understand "be taken away".

Perhaps {qama' nge'lu'ta'} for "The prisoner was taken away" - "der
Gefangene wurde fortgebracht"; {qama' nge'lu'taH} - "der Gefangene wird
fortgebracht".

> I'm not sure, but I still think it's option 1. I've never seen a
> Klingon word resembling this kind of option-2 passive. How would you
> use that word? I think you'd use {tlhap} instead

If it's "take away" in the sense of "fortbringen", then {tlhap} doesn't
work. vIt DaSovchu' DaneHchugh tlhInganvaD yIghel.

Philip

HovpoH 1509.61


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