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Re: weQqul's Urdu poem

David Trimboli ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



From: "Steven Boozer" <[email protected]>

>    ben chalvaD bI'Ip SoH.
>    DaH jIghoS.  'IplIj jIH.
>
>    Years ago *you* made an oath to the sky.
>    Now I come.  *I* am your oath.

I'd like to point out to weQqul that saying the pronoun is not necessarily
the same as emphasis.  I know Voragh disagrees with me on this.  For
emphasis, you should use the /-'e'/ suffix.  Just using an explicit pronoun
can be used for clarity, or, in my opinion, to fill out syllables.

Consider:

Duj tIj tlhIngan.  vImuS.
The Klingon boarded the ship.  I hate him(?)/it(?).

Which do I hate?  The Klingon or the ship?  I can clarify:

Duj tIj tlhIngan.  ghaH vImuS.
The Klingon boarded the ship.  I hate him.

This is not emphasis, it is clarification.

If I use /-'e'/, it would be emphasis.

Duj tIj tlhIngan.  ghaH'e' vImuS.
The Klingon boarded the ship.  I hate *him*.
The Klingon boarded the ship.  It is he whom I hate.

(Presumably I'm saying I hate the Klingon and not the ship, though context
could change this interpretation.)

SuStel
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