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Re: muv

Steven Boozer ([email protected])



Voragh:
> >> Another verb to consider is {muv} "join (physically)", which can refer to
> >> (physically) joining a group:

lay'SIv:
>Where does the "physically" in your gloss come from?

I have {muv} "join (physically)" in my notes without annotation, so I 
assume I took it from TKD.  Unless someone check right now, I'll have to 
check the Klingon-English and English-Klingon entries when I get home.

Quvar:
> > My glossary doesnt have it:
> >
> > muv v. join: batlh maHeghbej 'ej yo' qIjDaq vavpu'ma' DImuv. pa' reH
> > maSuvtaHqu'. Then we die with honor and join our fathers in the Black 
> Fleet
> > where we battle forever; muvmoH v. recruit [nc]; muvtay n. initiation.

Another example from the Star Trek: The Experience communique:

   jolbogh ghom wa'DIch DamuvlaHmeH De' DaneHchugh, Se'vam yIjIHtaH
   Stay tuned for information on how you can be among the first to beam 
aboard!

> > Seems like one can join a group (become a member of) but not "join"
> > sentences together for instance.

lay'SIv:
>Your comment about joining sentences seems to be based on the fact that we
>have no such canon usage.  With the scant canon we have, this is an 
>unwarranted
>assumption.

We have one more bit of canon:  the noun {muvwI'} "suture" (n.) [HQ 1.3 < 
veS QonoS].  This could be the surgical stitch itself, but more likely in 
Trek a suturing device (Qov calls is a "wound-sealer").  We've seen the 
various doctors use handheld surgical devices to heal wounds: e.g. bone 
knitter, tissue regenerator, etc.  With this in mind, I would suggest that 
we could use {muv} for joining smaller simple sentences together to form a 
longer, complex sentence.

>Since *any* usage not attested to in canon is speculative, we
>may as well use the word for any and all cases where the gloss fits.

I agree.

Note, too, that we also have the verb {rar} "connect, attach" used for "a 
standard hand held disruptor, attached to an extended power supply stock" 
in SkyBox S14.  What the precise differences are between {muv} and {rar} in 
Klingon are unknown.




-- 
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons 






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