tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Dec 06 13:24:42 2004
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Re: muv
Voragh:
> >> Another verb to consider is {muv} "join (physically)", which can refer to
> >> (physically) joining a group:
lay'SIv:
>Where does the "physically" in your gloss come from?
I have {muv} "join (physically)" in my notes without annotation, so I
assume I took it from TKD. Unless someone check right now, I'll have to
check the Klingon-English and English-Klingon entries when I get home.
Quvar:
> > My glossary doesnt have it:
> >
> > muv v. join: batlh maHeghbej 'ej yo' qIjDaq vavpu'ma' DImuv. pa' reH
> > maSuvtaHqu'. Then we die with honor and join our fathers in the Black
> Fleet
> > where we battle forever; muvmoH v. recruit [nc]; muvtay n. initiation.
Another example from the Star Trek: The Experience communique:
jolbogh ghom wa'DIch DamuvlaHmeH De' DaneHchugh, Se'vam yIjIHtaH
Stay tuned for information on how you can be among the first to beam
aboard!
> > Seems like one can join a group (become a member of) but not "join"
> > sentences together for instance.
lay'SIv:
>Your comment about joining sentences seems to be based on the fact that we
>have no such canon usage. With the scant canon we have, this is an
>unwarranted
>assumption.
We have one more bit of canon: the noun {muvwI'} "suture" (n.) [HQ 1.3 <
veS QonoS]. This could be the surgical stitch itself, but more likely in
Trek a suturing device (Qov calls is a "wound-sealer"). We've seen the
various doctors use handheld surgical devices to heal wounds: e.g. bone
knitter, tissue regenerator, etc. With this in mind, I would suggest that
we could use {muv} for joining smaller simple sentences together to form a
longer, complex sentence.
>Since *any* usage not attested to in canon is speculative, we
>may as well use the word for any and all cases where the gloss fits.
I agree.
Note, too, that we also have the verb {rar} "connect, attach" used for "a
standard hand held disruptor, attached to an extended power supply stock"
in SkyBox S14. What the precise differences are between {muv} and {rar} in
Klingon are unknown.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons